Doing the Work is Exhausting

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Doing the Work is Exhausting

Black Convergence · Sat Jul 20, 2024

What up is your girl Brande Grayson on 92.7 FM WM DX. You're listening to the black

conversion show with me, the hostess with the most is in a course.

Your favorite cousin Clyde. Hi, Outzo. Thank you for tuning in today. We got a whole

lot of stuff, but always we always want to start with love and technically. So today

we're going to talk about love. Then we're going to talk about all the drama that's

occurring in our world. I feel like we're living out of a Hollywood movie. Yeah. Right

now. And I feel like the whole world is watching. Yeah. And we're going to wake up one

day and they're going to be like, psych, you're just being recorded. This isn't real.

And we're going to go back to your normal. Yeah. The project 2025 isn't real. Everything's

fake. We just needed the votes. That's all right. Trump got shot in the ear. The guy's

not dead. It was just a movie. Just a mess. But people did die during this assassination.

The sad part about it. Did you say the assassination? Like it happened? Like he's no longer

a fireman. Supposedly a fireman died from the shots. You're going to say supposedly.

Okay, let's put it down. I don't want to say anything wrong, but conspiracy theorist has

started. I did you watch the convention? The firefighters suit was on the stage. And

honor of being killed during the assassination. They spelled his name wrong on his thing.

Somebody did die. Spelt it wrong. Forgot an A and put an E. I'm sure his wife doesn't

mind though. But this is supposed to be the jacket. He wore during work. So now it's

like, is this real? The jacket with his name on it. The fire fire jacket. I told you

that this is Hollywood. And they thought it was going to get past America now. Yeah, it

will. I mean, there's still people. You know what? Let's put a bomb. Yeah, yeah. That

take it. Take it. It's the mass Hollywood. Oh, yeah, we're definitely in a movie. So where

would you like to start? Cousin Clive? Love. I know. But what? We got to check in. I'm

going to love. I'm not alone. I don't even want to talk about this week. It's not

a mess. But I listen to these. So why are you tired of love, sis? I'm not tired of

love. I guess this week, I don't know. I just want you to lead the conversation.

Okay. Maybe I'm just what I did for me this week and look. So I did. I focused on self

love. And maybe our conversations initiated me working towards it. And I was meditating

a lot. Me too. I was meditating. I had my shower breakthrough. Do you have breakthroughs

in the shower? No. Also that that's not true. Like a long time. So I had a shower breakthrough

which I love. Those more than just the water is flowing tears are flowing. So what's the

breakthrough? I want the tea. The breakthrough was being grateful. I think it was being grateful.

I found myself having to put out a fire for someone. And just looking at their situation

and then being able to lean on me again. Okay. I was just more so I heard a word say like

thank God you're the one on the end helping and not the one on the end needing the help.

Amen. So it was just like when we when I want to complain about being pulled on. Yeah.

I'm happy. I'm not the one pulling on. Oh, that's good. That is a nice aha moment. Yeah, it was.

It really was good. So this week for you when we talk about love was really about self care.

Yes. And I've been doing more self care too. I've been feeling better. I've been extra

time. I thought I thought it in my basement. It's my home gym in the basement. I've been working

out. I've been meditating. I made sure I get up. Ooh, the phone fell. I make sure I get up

every day on at least try to look cute. Don't I look cute today? You look good. You look good

all the time. Okay. So today I say you know what? I'm a star just making sure that I am putting forth

the effort to be fly. So I've been doing that and it's really been helping. And then we've been

doing some self care stuff at work with the staff. So I don't know. I'm feeling better about it.

But I'm still want to talk about the thing that came to my head. Okay. And I know I'm always

bringing up feminine energy and masculine energy because I feel like that's just this huge topic

that we don't get enough time to talk about. And one thing that I've been like exploring is really

what is wounded masculine energy? What's wounded feminine energy? Okay. What's the consequence of

that? And what's the opposite of it? Because a lot of times I all these conversations around

relationships, regardless if you're queer, trans, non-conforming, hetero, whatever, however you

identify, I keep seeing these dynamics between masculine and feminine energy. And I'm just,

I don't know. Like I want more conversation around it. For me, if I speak for masculine folks and

their trauma, I think it's still the sassiness. I think it's the it's the running your mouth too much.

But that's the thing. I think wounded masculinity brings out more feminine energy. Right. But

and wounded wounded feminine energy brings out more masculine energy. Yeah. Because there's these

two parts in us that exist. And when masculine energy is wounded and it's not in alignment with

divine masculinity, which looks like, I don't know, integrity looks like honesty, transparency,

looks like authority, providing structure, providing a way, providing direction. And when people aren't

learn how to do that, I guess, or it becomes a scramble day. Yeah. And they become sassy. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. masculine people know seriously. And I feel like that like you could tell the

trauma like where in your life did you think it was appropriate to scream all the time,

nag all the time, complain all the time versus like being the person that actually

the problem itself. Yeah. Or not even, you know, sometimes we throw that on the masculine being

like you should fix all the issues. They should at least initiate it. I feel like if you have

the right look, are you the problem fixer at home? Yes. I could tell. No. I feel like Luke is more so like

is even okay. Luke, Luke gives off the energy where it's like his wife is probably like,

why did you set that right there? You know, normally goes over here. Luke is like, I just set it

down. Yeah. I don't think Luke is over there like, you're not going to make breakfast and you know,

I got to go to work. What? He looked like Luke said, I know. I'm like, don't worry. Yeah. He's

like, yeah, he's like, I'll just grab a bagel. Don't worry. Yeah. Baby, breathe. Yeah. So, but you

got those that like in their moment be like, but you ain't cooking out there. And you're not doing

this. Yeah. But you could just grab a bagel today. So how do we move from? I mean, I guess the

conversation is always especially specifically for black people. This is the black conversion show.

You're listening to 92.7 FM W MDX listening to your girl Brandi Grayson and your favorite cousin

cousin Clyde. So I think the conversation again, when we talk about this energy and we talk about

relationships and relating, this also plays out in our personal relationships. This is not just

intimate. It plays out at work. Yeah. Right. When you have mommy issues, daddy issues and people

known as black, I've seen it play out a lot over the last couple of weeks. Yeah. You know, like,

I feel like people are having not okay spaces in their personal worlds. And then it comes to work

and you blow up. Like how do how do we start as people, whether you're black or other? How do we

start or how do we provide space and still move people along to do what they need to do? We have

to first reflect and we have to self reflect a lot of people don't do that. Oh, you mean individual.

Individually, right? Like we go through a week and sometimes we're not like what happened

Monday? What happened Tuesday? And through the week, we're probably bumping heads with folks and

we're never like taking the time to say, okay, I made a mistake. Yeah. And that's that meditation,

though. Yeah. That's kind of like that self reflection and meditating and becoming more aware

of yourself. And we yeah, it's it's so important. Making mistakes and revisiting those conversations

or moments are important to me at least. Like if you are having a bad week and you come into work

and you're not you're normal self and you offend me, I might give you a pass like, hey,

I could tell you're having a bad week. I'm the type that say, I'm a boss. So I'm going to type

this saying, are you not having a good day today? Communicate that so that everyone knows you're

in a red zone. Yeah. And then I'm also the type that, hey, when you come from the red zone,

anybody that you offend it while there, you do owe them an apology. Yeah, some kind of

acknowledge and I'll be the one in the workplace to hold the meeting. Well, sure. One thing I've

been trying to do is or feeling is like, you know how we talk about a lot about black people,

black, this black, that black leadership, black relationships. I'm, this might sound crazy.

And I know I don't know if it goes along with the conversation of love. Like I love black people.

I love me too. But I'm kind of tired of talking about us. It's crazy because this week I had

like in a little epiphany that I was like, are we over the like needing to remind folks about

black issues, right? And I was like, I need to find a way to now say, this is the it. And this

is what we need to fix versus being like, I feel like sometimes I'm in a space where I'm always

fighting for black people. And even now you're fighting with black people about black people.

That's what I'm writing to. Well, we're going to talk about that definitely when we talk about

the Republican National Convention because there was plenty of black people in the house

of different leaders across the country, black leaders, Tim Smith,

only fans. As Amber rolls even black. She says she's not black and she's not black. So she

don't count. She got blind hair. She got the same color hair as Donald Trump. You know what?

I got it. Hey, they friends. They call it something. So okay, so tell me where I'm just where

you feel that like it's kind of hard. I just think because it's in Madison. I think

it's in Madison. Do you believe? I believe that I feel like I'm in the sunken place and I feel

like the more I talk about black issues, the dynamics as a black woman that I experienced,

the more the more alone I feel right in that conversation. Thank you for sharing that.

Yeah, like I feel really alone and I feel like we can't even really have authentic

conversations about dynamics like power dynamics and anti-blackness and white people and

especially people that have literally worked for me that are not black. Like, for example,

I got a resignation this week that I'm going to celebrate. It was the best feeling because this

particular person brought so much anxiety to the workplace. They were so messy. They caused all

kind of dynamics occurrence and all my staff and this was worse than a bad apple. But I couldn't

even like even right now. I can't fully talk about it because as a black woman, I'm going to

become the issue. That person gets to move in their space and they get to move to a different job

and pretend like they got it together. And that's what happens a lot. So I feel like I'm talking to

walls and I feel like there's no safe space where I'm not because if I talk too much or I talk

too loudly, then I'm punished. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had my I had my moment this week too.

Midweek Wednesday, Dylan with a black person who works for the county in regards to violence

prevention. Oh, let's talk about that in the meeting. Not to say black folks. What? Why? Because

we're all the same. I have a black person like a black person. Like, are they dark?

Dark skin. Chocolate because you have this whole idea analysis of how. Oh, they were talking to me

so yeah, they were talking. I looked at this one. I'd be like, if they like, they, they, they don't

get it. But that's what you get. That's what you get. But I was told, listen, don't say black folks

because we are not the same. And you should say all people. Wait, let's put a pit. Let's come back

to talk about it. Okay, we're going to come back to it because I need more. I need to know more

T and what the conversation and context, but that is a perfect example of existing Madison where

you just feel alone. It's just sad. Okay, you are tuned in to the black conversion show on 92.7

FM with your girl, Brandy Grayson, hostess with the most is in your favorite cousin Clyde.

Yeah, so you guys stay tuned because we're going to talk more about T,

politics and your boy Trump. See you in a second.

What up is your girl Brandy Grayson on 92.7 FM. You're tuned in to the black conversion show

I'm in a house with my co-host and cousin. You're favorite cousin Clyde. So prior to break,

we were talking about love. Of course, we always start our show off with love because love is so

political and so messy. So prior to break, what we were saying is, hey, I'm actually tired as a black

person of being black in Madison and defending blackness, explaining power dynamics, explaining

anti-whiteness, teaching people about and not anti-whiteness anti-blackness and teaching people

like about the systemic stuff and how it shows up and how I feel like I'm literally always

knocking my head against the wall. It feels like the sunken place for real and people are complacent.

Like black people are complacent and if they hold a certain level of prestige, influence,

and positional, they they they support it. I don't know if they forget. I feel like they

forget that they're black during work. I think I think they get like we are right now,

we're tired of hitting our head and then they stop. But they did nothing though. When you think

about when you think about us and the work that we do, we're tired because of the work that we

have done. I don't I don't see a lot of people doing the work that we do, but let me give you an

example, right? So everybody is involved in this whole violence prevention thing, which we understand

and I'm going to make this quick. And so I was defending two sisters that pulled themselves out

of a project verbally, but showed up the day and was all teams and all hands on deck. Okay. And the

the black leader who was a woman that worked for the county. Yes. Okay. That was like that's not how

we roll. If you said you're not going to do something, you can't just show up and still be a part of

and I said, wait a minute. Yes, you can. And I said, in black village, we have to learn how to

forgive people, right? Yeah. And she threw out their word is bond. When you say something, I'm about

your word. And I said, I'm more about your actions. And I said, when I do with black folks,

I go off of their actions and their heart. Well, that and we have the whole space for

again when people have bad days. Yeah. And I said that through this big conversation we had. And

I was like saying that and also saying black folks, we go off of love and action.

And to people can make mistakes, people can say something. And I was told in my tracks,

don't say black folks. What did you say? I said that. I said, I know what you say to her.

Or them or they wherever they are. I sat there and I looked and I listened because I'm learning

to like go and keep on talking. And then what you do, I said, and again, this is a village.

Everybody at the table was black. So I used the word that everybody was familiar with. And I said,

this is a village. We need to learn how to love. That's exactly what I said. Baby, the elders

was at the table like, why wasn't I at this meeting? I wasn't getting invited to see even

now. Sometimes I get in the clearance right here, baby, because sometimes I want to tag you on

posts. Well, don't be tagging me because I get people's green shot my tags and send them to

city and contract holders. So don't be like Brandy Grayson said. Yes. But I just was like,

this is why I have to continue. Yeah, I just I just found out the other day that we got denied

a grant through true stage, who has been one of our partners forever. Because it would not a good

explanation of why, but I have an idea. And I believe it's because of this person that we were

working with in city council, that were that literally went and lied and said that we missed

managed money. But this is my question. When contract holders and funders get these, she said,

he said, this is what they're doing. From a person that's outside of an organization, you would

think they will come to the organization for clarification. Because the one thing urban triage has

not done and will never ever do is misappropriate funds, right? Because we are a black led organization,

look us up, urban triage.org. And what I do know is the microscope is always on us, right? So

people are always doing open requests. They're always auditing us. We always got our stuff together.

I promise you that we plan for this. But that was also a black woman. And the people that were part

of the grant process were also black people. So when we talk about like the hurt and Madison and

like how it's hard to navigate as a black person who's providing black services and centering

black folks and trying to navigate these systems, it's not always black and white. Racism isn't

about black and white. Racism is about a power dynamic. That's always active in all people

activities. And which we are all swallowing this stuff. And we're all like part of it.

Throwing it up. We're vomiting all the time. And we're not even aware of it because we're not

reflecting. We're not reading. We're not building analysis. So in Madison. No building a relationship

with relationships, right? We just have he say she said, and I wish I could tell you this other

gossip story about Brandy, but I said I wouldn't say it out loud in public. But it's stupid.

The way that people make up stories. So I say out of love, like I'm not that I'm getting tired of

advocating for people known as black. I think I'm just tired of Madison politics and the

complacency and this whole dynamic and the better you get at the work, the less people support you

and you become the problem versus the solution. Yeah. Yeah. I'm tired as well. And I've gotten

to my moment from like, okay, I need to start my five year exit plan because I could take

all of this. Yes. And go somewhere else. And they're going to eat it all up.

Okay, can we just point out that we're on state street and this guy right here, that gray

here guy that's walking. He's been walking up and down state street asking people for money

and then he was locked out his car and like six people gave him money. And I'm like, do you

have a walk? I handed him a card and said, reach out to Urban Triage. We'll be happy to assist you

with homeless placement service. I don't know why I just ran the weed point in that out city here

because he's doing it. Yeah, we're going to let you know. So you're listening to 92.7 FM.

Civic media is located downtown across from the overture center. So we have a beautiful view.

Right, right. Don't come. Don't come looking for us. But this is where I'm literally looking at

state street Madison, Wisconsin. But anyway, we're not going too far, I guess. But what's in the news,

cousin? Hi, let's move on. Let's talk about local or I love it. Like I heard, oh my god. Did you see

that dude that NFL dude Crawford? He's like to 12 years for sexually assault of a 12-year-old.

So he literally was having sex with this little baby. But 12 years for having sex with a kid.

That's what that's what I mean. Like we like our country is failing. Our systems are weird

because you're a grown man having sex and the thing about it is she's probably was a black

little girl. Yeah. And we don't really like make black girls and black women into like

people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If that was a white girl, he probably would have got sentenced to 25

years. Yeah. It's absolutely disgusting. Like he his wife literally walked into the front room

with him sexually assaulting that girl. And she said that he woke her up and made him do the

oral stuff and then, you know, did the other stuff. And you got 12 years. And that's the kind of

situation I pray to God that I'm never in because I would probably be on the front page. Yeah.

My kids, my grandchildren, baby. Look, but you know what's sad, you know, data shows that black

girls are the most sexually assaulted things in America. Well, Malcolm X said that black women

are the most unprotected. Yeah. It's a fact. It's a fact. And so yeah, and only 12 years.

Because what does that say to black girls and black? But the same is true local leader. How many

black men leaders are walking around Madison, what's constant? Who have committed crime, sexual

harassment, sexual assault, pedophilia, what about men who are domestic violence leading these

organizations in the name of community, but you have slat women, beat women, rape women,

you, and we even have some leaders who have killed or allegedly killed people. And we support

them. And that's everything. Right. So what a black woman, if we speak too loud or we provide

too much analysis around racism, we're not protected. We're not protected. And people actually hate

you for it. So that's why I said, like the more I talk about the power dynamics, the more the

less support we receive, which is weird because our whole organization is based on black folks

and helping black folks. But you know what? You're blessed, though. You're blessed. You're blessed.

And they can't take away what higher power has for you. I think that's the truth, guys.

Because you got a lot of baby. Yeah, man. They can't take that away. And they can keep trying.

They're going to put themselves in danger trying to take you out. Yeah, but that's the thing,

though, like we don't talk about that enough. We'll be back. We're listening to the 90,

you listen to the 90 black conversion show with Brandy Grace. It's cousin Clyde. We'll be back in a

sec. We will.

All right. We are back on the black conversion show with your girl Brandy Grayson.

And your favorite cousin Clyde. Okay. You're listening to 92.7 FM. And what we were just talking

about is the power dynamics and how this guy Crawford could get 12 years for raping a 12-year-old.

And how that actually shows up that kind of dynamic shows up in all politics and all spaces.

And specifically locally in the Dan County, Madison area, I was saying how men leaders can come

and be leaders no matter what they they have crimes. They've couldn't even or injustices. And we're

quick to forgive. And people be like, well, God said forgive. And I could go and say something

on Facebook and say, Oh, for example, I haven't I have made a video the other day on Facebook alive

about how I didn't we didn't get a lot of volunteers from our sororities and our fraternities.

And how they felt like I needed jobs to volunteer. And then some people interpreted as I was going

left or dogging them. And I really wasn't that wasn't my intention. And I do understand how things

can be heard and filtered. But at the same time, I don't play with the divide my nine.

Oh, don't play with me. Whatever. Don't play with me. I don't know what they would do.

But I'm just saying like that was taken well here in the Midwest because the divide not in the south.

I love them. They be in the hood. They be everywhere. Yeah, like I feel like there's a connection

between. And I black is held to me. Okay. Well, I think we could do better. And I think there's

some great people there. But my point of the video was just saying like, I'm hurt because I need

black people. I need black people to do the work people that this is your mission. Yeah. And there's

nine of nine chapters nine plus chapters with 100 members. I'm not going to count. I know how it

goes. Yeah, my people. I'm not counting y'all. I'm just saying what I desired in that moment

for black people is I want black people to serve black people. And our event is happening today,

right? Saturday. We're at Penn Park, our annual kickback from two to seven p.m. So y'all come out,

hang out with us. Everything free free food carts, ice cream, water, juice,

free climbing for obstacle courses, two bouncy houses, face painting, cotton candy,

live performances, DJ battle, double debt, dutch. We have so much. We've got Gigi Playhouse

in the house with their activities. We got the Children Museum with their activities. We have

vendors. We have resources, both. It's a huge event. So we need lots of volunteers. So that's

what the video was about. And I was just really expressing that I want us to show up more for us,

and especially organizations that you know do the work. It's the same question I have for true

stage. Like how could you question what urban triage does with anything you give us when our work

is out loud out front. We're doing the work. And a lot of times people just be hating under closed

doors. And I knew who I know who did the hating. I got in a contract with people we should have

not had a contract with who didn't understand budgets. Don't understand grants. Don't understand

nonprofits. And we started this program in partnership with them. And then we started raising

money to feel gaps because the budget has gaps. It don't cover the whole operations. It doesn't

cover the whole administration. So we went and did outreach to true stage and American families.

And hey, can we get money to cover these gaps? And they gave it to us. And then the people got

mad. That was in partnership that we got the money. So then they went to them talking about

they're using us to fundraise. That's not how this works. I hold a contract with you. I don't

have enough for the auditing or the accounting. I need someone to pay it. You can't pay me 4%

administration when you have a HUD funding when you get the paperwork is ridiculous. So I have

to pay for that. So you're hitting it on the head. And now true stage is looking at us crazy. And I

know that's what it's for. And everyone involved. Look, I got emotional. Everyone involved was black.

Right. So when we talk about the dynamics of Madison, the most hurt that I received from people

are black people. So anyway, let's move on. Because I'm really triggered. No, no, no. Right.

And we don't want to continue that. Right. Right. But you're hitting it on the head where now it's

even get into the point where there's even different orgs and foundations that say we are here to

help people. But if you're with these people and you get support from them, they do not want you

to get support from these people. And then you'll under didn't you find out there's beef between them.

And I had a situation when I hired a contractor to do work on this particular contract.

Uh-huh. And then I got a call saying we don't mess with that person. What that got to do with me

because I'm okay with this person. And wait a minute. We're all doing the work for people.

So anyway, I triggered Clyde too. So let's go back to the news. We're listening to 92.7 FM.

So we have Shakira Shakara Richardson. So all y'all haters.

Right. And there are encircles again. Look, girl, she y'all was hating on her a couple years

because she smoked a little weed. Knowing your mama's smoke weed, your doctor's smoke weed,

everybody's smoke weed. And wore nails and wore long hair. And she was too black.

Right. She's too black. But she's been running y'all in a dust. So she ran a 100 meter.

I'm to qualify her for the Olympics. And the thing about running if you stumble, if you stumble

backwards, it takes time. If you take time off the clock for you because it slows you down.

You got to get back, right? If you stumble left or right, it also takes time. So at the 100 meter,

she's right. She takes off and she stumbles right. And next thing you know, she catches her

composure and she takes off so fast. And next thing you know, she runs a 1080 and she blows

everybody away. And that's the kind of excellence and kind of like resilience and like pushing through

that I don't know y'all that that I believe that's innately in us, right? Because of the struggles,

because of the trials, because of navigating the system to white supremacy. I believe a lot of

black people possess this and our children do, but we don't know or recognize it. But I absolutely

love her. I love her. I love her. I love her. So y'all tune into the Olympics because there's

going to be a lot of black women magic out there. We're in the water. We're dominating the water.

We're dominating. Black women is dominating the water in the swim category. Everything.

They're dominating the air in the gymnastics. Come on now. And dominating the track. Come on now.

Where we at? All the Olympics going to be black, black, black, black, black, black. So

Republicans are going to be watching the Olympics back up big of cheering at the same time.

Representing. I heard you name me real confused. You know what else I heard some tea on.

You know that app the glide where gay people go and meet up. Do you know about that?

Like I don't know. Look at me. You put me on. Look what happened.

Oh, the gay is always up to something. What they do?

Lou, if she's about to glide, I meant the gliders, the Lou, the girl.

Okay. The grinder. Grinder. Grinder. I know about Grinder. I know about Grinder.

I do know about Grinder. So the Grinder app apparently blew up.

Go ahead, Brandy. Go ahead. Okay. So I'm gonna go.

So apparently, y'all this app blew up. Like it was being overused.

Doing the Republican convention. Oh my God. I could believe it.

It crashed because everybody was trying to hook up.

They went to the convention looking for them some sex.

So the Republican is gay.

I could believe it.

Baby, jump gays and Milwaukee will probably turn up dumb man's as rich.

I just want to say you guys, we have a gay here.

We're good. We're good. We good. We good.

I just don't think I'm going wrong.

So this conversation is about getting a coin.

They was. Okay. So can you believe like we have this document,

the project 2025 as anti-gay anti-everything, right?

And then you go to a convention that's anti-gay and you and the biggest gay app

is crashing because y'all is crashing out.

Oh God. It's so good. They must forget that people have data.

And then the data shows that it's spiked.

Pinging in those areas.

Because that's one thing I do know I'm not on grinds earth.

I don't go looking for me.

But it will have you. It was here.

I think it's like a mileage thing.

Like like 10 years. It's a tender like I don't know.

I'm doing that. I don't know. I don't know.

I just walked to start.

That's how. Look. Look. Look. Look.

I don't use them.

Use them. Okay.

Who used them?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay. So we have the data.

So it's Republican.

Right away to is right away.

Republicans are gay.

I ain't shocked gay Republicans.

I feel like Trump want me to love you.

Obama.

Look.

Like self hate.

Like you can't even be gay.

I think. But you know what?

That's normal in this large professional realm.

But you go vote against yourself.

Yeah. That's that's self hate.

Now now you're going to be your gay.

You undercover gay.

You got a wife and kids and you gay.

And then you go and vote gay because you hate yourself.

You hate your own desires.

That's it. And that's why I brought this.

This is just sitting up in that room.

It's like.

Oh yeah. What else we got in the news?

We got the grinders.

But what happened? I heard someone was killed by the police.

Oh yeah.

You're right. So in Milwaukee.

A homeless guy was murdered.

In Milwaukee.

By Ohio police.

I think it was like five people involved.

And the homeless dude.

I don't even know the detail because they haven't really

released a lot of details.

I never going to tell us until they did.

I didn't see it.

Luke, I suck.

And what happened, Luke?

There were two homeless men that had knives.

Mm-hmm.

The Columbus police were there.

Extra protection.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

Samuel Sart.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They knew who he was.

They wouldn't have done that.

That really sucks.

Oh God.

Right.

So, I mean, that's pretty, I mean, that's pretty, thank you, Luke,

because we were not in the loop.

But that's pretty telltale about what happens when you have

4,000 police officers from across the country come to Milwaukee

and then operate outside their own safety and preventives on.

Yeah.

Because why are you even there?

Right. And why are you even in our community?

Which is also a telltale.

But why is so important for police officers to be part of the

police and that they serve?

And one of the things that we're doing at our event today

is we've asked black police officers to come out of uniform

and not come to work.

Because we don't allow police officers in our event

or at our event because of the power dynamics

and because of stuff like that, right?

But we asked them to come and be part of the community.

Yeah.

So, come and hang out with us, right?

Bring your family.

Bring your family.

Because how do you serve a community that you're not even comfortable in?

You're not only a Madison.

Because in other cities and urban cities,

they know their police.

I remember when I worked on Ally years ago

at the Joining Forces for Family as a community.

I can't remember my position,

but I was the person they sent out when they got chip requests

or referrals like CPS notices.

Okay.

I will be sent into the house to talk to families before they sent

like the big dogs.

The big dogs.

And I used to know the cops in that area, right?

Because we used to always talk.

And the cops in that area really helped me navigate

and help the families navigate.

Because I can go talk to officer,

whoever and say this is a situation over here

we need additional support.

And if you ever get a call,

this is the max story and call me, right?

So, I could be advocate.

We don't really have that kind of stuff.

But we do have black leaders though.

We have our black chief of police in Madison.

We got a black sheriff.

And I rock with both of them by the way.

And I think...

I really like him too.

I have mental events.

We was at the Derby.

He was at the Kymful's concert this past Thursday.

See, I like him.

His daughter, I know a little bit about him from conversation.

His daughter is also a choreographer.

So, he was telling me like,

I know how you get down

and I appreciate the value that you have in our community.

And I love that.

But he's from Chicago.

That's how they do it.

And that's why Chicago can navigate through their police.

I think one of the issues we have with the police here now

is that we're having all these migrant officers come to our city.

For people who don't know the history by now.

Yes, I've seen so many police now that I'm like,

who are you?

Well, they're from footville.

Yeah, like they're coming from...

Footville, Wisconsin.

You know that's the thing.

Like Luke, that's the place in Wisconsin.

Footville.

Yep.

They're from Randlander.

Yeah, and I think that's an issue.

You need a chill pill.

No, you need a CBD.

You know it's legal.

They got high...

What's that place called on the state street?

High crowd?

You have been there?

I'm going to give you all the big ups.

High crowd is a CBD store.

They sell lemonade.

Oh, I see.

I walked past it when they were building it.

I love it.

That's nice.

It's a natural herb.

It's natural. Go drink some lemonade.

I drunk some lemonade the other day.

And let me tell you,

I was happy all day.

I was like, I am out of depression

because of the lemonade.

I'm going to give her some free products

because clearly,

she's sitting y'all customers.

I feel good all day.

It's true.

I mean, existing in a sunken place,

you've got to have something.

Walk, swim, run, jog.

Use the grinder out.

Go find you a down low.

Do something.

But it to be...

And be aware.

But to be aware is to be outrate.

That's what happens.

Be aware is that that's what James Baldwin said.

To be black and aware, you stay outrate.

So anyway, you're listening to the black convergence show

with one of your favorite people, Brandi Grayson.

And your other favorite person.

We'll be back.

Amber Clip, when we come back.

We've got to talk about Amber Rose.

And we've got to talk about,

what else we've got to say?

Oh, Camilla here is Camola.

Always mess up her name.

But her clap back.

The vice president.

Against the...

Oh, you got to hear this.

We'll be back in a sec.

Yeah, her clap back was good.

Yeah.

All right, we are back.

You're tuned in to the black convergence show

on 92.7 FM.

You're listening to your girl, Brandi Grayson.

And your favorite cousin, Clyde.

Clyde, who likes to go on grinders.

I'm just kidding.

The glide.

My bad, my bad.

So anyway, we're going to get to some other stuff

because we don't have much time.

But just, I want to remind you guys again

in part two to seven today.

Come bring your family, face painting, free everything.

All right.

It is everything. Come and join us.

Volunteer, if you can.

Volunteer, come and stop at our volunteer tent.

Sign up. If you haven't signed up.

What else we got locally?

What you got?

The all-white party is this weekend.

No, it's not.

It is.

It's the 27th.

He's lying. It's not this weekend.

It's a big club for their event.

What else we got locally.

Oh, we got, does Matt Town Lit or is there any farmer's market?

Concert on the square on Wednesday.

And he's the saturday.

Oh, God.

Yeah, Matt is on Fridays first of all.

And I don't know when it starts.

But look it up.

And also, there's concerts on the square every Wednesday.

And then there's concerts on the rooftop

at Mononateres on Thursday.

This day and dance starts the first week of Aug.

All those are all of our local summer things.

Not all of them.

Just what can pop in my mind.

But let's go and talk.

Let's hear Kamala Harris.

The vice president.

Go in.

She did a huge clap back about JD.

Is his name JD Vance.

Okay, JD Vance.

Trump's chosen VP who's going to run with him.

JD has like one term and Senate term under his belt.

He has nothing.

He's 39 years old.

And he's 39.

He's wrote a book.

What the heck was the book about?

Oh, my God.

The war from growing up in the southwestern Ohio.

Could you all be in trouble?

I could imagine a man.

A white man from Ohio writing.

About being a hillbilly.

He's 39 years old.

You haven't accomplished or done nothing.

I mean, Jesus just learned how to be Jesus at the age of 40.

What do you know, sir?

You know, we haven't had a president with a beard and like...

Shut up.

But if Trump died, which he probably is,

because he eats a lot of hamburgers,

he will become...

He will become the hillbilly president.

Let's go to our current VP, Kamala,

because she's not back.

We can't play the whole clip, y'all,

but let's see what we can play real quick.

portray themselves as a party of unity.

That's the Republicans.

But here is the thing.

If you claim to stand for unity,

you need to do more than just use the word.

I mean, it's not being gay on the cover.

I mean, that might happen.

That comes with a blind eye.

She stands.

You cannot claim you stand for unity

if you are pushing an agenda

that deprives whole groups of Americans

of basic freedoms,

opportunity, and dignity.

You cannot claim to be for unity

if you try to overturn a free and fair agenda.

Right. Like, how you gonna say you for unity

and you over here kicking down the Capitol door?

This is insane.

And threatened to terminate the United States Constitution.

That's the end, Luke.

I thought I sent you a longer clip

when she starts talking about other stuff.

That's not worried about it.

But we need to find the whole clip

because the mile snaps from beginning to end.

And I also think that Biden needs her to be speaking.

Like, Biden just needs to sit down.

Like, really, we're voting for her.

Or the speaker of the house.

Who's the speaker of the house?

I think it's a black woman.

Is it?

No, no, no.

The key to Jeffries is the chief of staff.

He's the current minority leader.

And all Democrats were to retake these.

Okay. Okay. Okay.

Who was the last speaker of the house?

Finally, it's Mike Johnson.

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Mike Johnson.

Cool speaker. The house was Nancy Pelosi.

Yeah. I don't even really want to admit to y'all.

I don't be knowing what none of this really means

to be the speaker of the house, the speaker of the Senate,

the representative of the...

I mean, I just...

You know, when they get into that big,

oh, board room and there's the flags behind it.

I know. That person is the person that is supposed to speak

on behalf of the house representative.

Yeah.

So if everybody died, they become president.

Yeah.

If the president, the vice president, the speaker of the house.

Okay. Cool.

Well, the white dude that, you know, everybody's loving Trump,

he just got shot in the ear.

Yeah.

Clyde said he was assassinated.

It was an assassination attempt.

Clyde was like, Trump was assassinated.

I was like, when?

Because I just saw that brother.

So in the assassination attempt of Donald Trump,

I think they let off like six rounds, six shots.

I could be wrong.

But it shot him in the ear.

But can we talk more about this firefighter guy

who has was murdered, right?

Apparently, and technically murdered.

But in...

Honored as the convention,

the Republican National Convention,

and how they hung up his jacket.

He's actually in uniform supposed to be his actual firefighter

in uniform.

And spelled his name wrong.

On the uniform.

So this is why a lot of people are saying that this is a hoax.

That there was no...

But this is also, for me,

I just want to say that there's been many hoax, right?

Like the United States government,

everyone with power,

they orchestrate what they want us to see here

and be a part of...

Well, for the fear for distractions

and really to get sympathy.

Because every time Trump does some performance,

move like this, right?

Sorry, I think it's a performance move.

Me too, I don't believe it.

He gets more money, white people do crazy things

to support him and black folks.

And people are walking around with bandages

on their ear in solidarity with Trump.

Yeah, I saw that.

Like, what is wrong with y'all people?

And then he stands up after he gets shot.

Supposedly, he starts talking about where his shoes is.

The first thing he says is where are my shoes?

What, Trump? You just got shot in an ear.

And then he throws up the fist.

Like a Nazi.

Oh my god, y'all.

This whole presidential thing is a mess.

It makes us look so bad.

It makes us look like a joke.

We probably cracking up right now.

I don't think they're cracking up.

Because I think these people are all in cahoots

from China to Russia to American.

They're all friends.

They're not cracking up.

They're sitting on the golf course right now,

smoking cigars and saying, look at these sheep.

They're all in certain directions.

And that's how we are.

We just, like, little sheep.

And we don't think for ourselves.

We don't question.

We got Project 2025, 922 pages of what Trump is going to do in office,

which is him, you know, removing abortion rights,

removing more trans rights.

You know, they've been doing that a lot everywhere.

And everything is to monitor pregnant women.

And then one of his things is to monitor pregnant women.

This is crazy.

Why is this baby running across the street by themselves?

So this is why you cannot record us downtown

at the overture center on state street.

The baby's just in the street.

We are not downtown at the overture center.

We are watching the baby.

If that was the black baby,

the police would have been called.

But we're not even going to go there right now.

Because Trump is somewhere right now with a ears not shot off.

Okay, anyway, you're listening to the black conversion show.

We're out of time.

We wanted to give you more jokes about Trump and his shot off ear.

But we don't have time.

He's done enough of that.

All right, well, we're out.

You're listening to 92.7 FM,

your girl Brandy Grayson.

And your favorite cousin Clyde.

We'll see you next weekend.

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