All right, what's up my people? You're listening to Brandy Grayson on the Black Conversion
show with my boy, my cousin, my own air husband, Clyde, Uncle Clyde, Clyde, Clyde.
Born on 92.7 FM WMDX who are super excited to be back in the studio. I'm excited because
I'm not alone and when I'm alone, I feel so rejected. You would never have long made me feel so
rejected. Like this week, leaving me on the air. Look, and then like when you were prepared
to have like a co-host, I'm like, who I'm going to say this and cousin Clyde going
to say this, but then I was really by myself looking at Luke. Like Luke, what you going to say?
Luke was like, Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't expecting. That's all. I did my back. You did. You
did really good when talking about Trump. So we were good. But Luke, when I got to the Black
love, Luke was like, hmm, not wrong. He not wrong. But since he held it down, like she
always do, but I'm back. What's up? Just like to put the applications away y'all on my spot,
but I'm back. You a whole hot mess. So one of the things that I promise you guys every week
that we're going to talk about is love. And one of the reasons it's not like, well, love
is actually pretty political nowadays. I think everything we do is political and politics.
But one of the things that I talked about alone last week on the black conversion show,
I am not fast and progressive brandy. One of the things that we talked, well, I'm sorry,
not we, but I talked about was how demanding love is. And how we don't actually get to like
articulate or communicate or teach how demanding love is. And oftentimes when we watch,
you know, when we're conditioned about love is like love is kind. Love is peace. Love is
joy. Love is fruit fruit. Like love is like always this thing that should feel happy
and good. And reality is love hurt. It hurts. And it hurts when you start to love yourself.
It's mean. It could be mean. And what do you mean by mean? What do you mean? How does love
mean? You know, when I was dating, maybe some time, two weeks ago, he was dating. He had
dates. Now he was, I was dating. Okay, I'm dating now that I'm dating. Anyway, give
us a name. We get to the restaurant and the bill come and the person at like, day
not hand to be like, what? How mean is that like, pay this bill? No, but for a love can
be mean. Okay, we joke about we might be serious. Love is not a field of roses. It's
not. It's not. It could be very. It could be very intense intense. And it stretches you.
Mm hmm. And I get confused from love because, okay, so just for some context, again, you're
listening to the black conversion show on 92.7 FM with your girl, Brandi Grayson.
And your favorite cousin clad and we're talking about love. So one of the things that I
feel like impacts me and my ability to love is my childhood where I really didn't get
an opportunity or reference point for like positive love or, you know, intimate love where
people were safe and they were being heard and they were being taken care of. So I don't
have a reference point for that. So I think, oh, you know, what I heard the other day
that stuck out to me that your nervous system attracts the people that you're around based
on your wounds. Yeah. You're like your, your traumatic, your trauma wounds. Yeah. So a lot of us,
especially black people, specifically black people, we come from so much trauma and then we attract
partners, friendships, jobs, situationships based on our traumatic and our trauma wounds.
Yeah. What do you think about that cousin clad? And how does that impact our ability to love
if we're in relationships with people with common wounds? Doing the work that we do.
We show up to spaces and folks gravitate to us. And a lot of times those people are people
that are going through something. People that need something, people that need a little bit of
extra love. And we're always like, I think once we get tired, a long time, we're like, I'm so
drained, right? Because I've given all of me to the world and no one gave me anything, right?
And it's like, am I showing up as Superman or Superman? Am I not showing up as vulnerable as
they are? Because people forget that, right? So because that becomes our norm, we're always
showing up like that, even when we're down. So how do you, how does that impact relationships,
like intimate relationship? So if you're pouring into the world and you, like your part,
our part of our work, I, I run urban triage cousin clad runs house ink, which is a you focus
art nonprofit, you theater dance and all kind of amazing things and after school programs and
all kind of stuff for you. And that your, your expression, your work is expression of your trauma
and your desire to give back into field, those inches and to save, you know, people who from going
through what you, whatever, but in relationships like a intimate relationship, you go out to the
world, you do all this and then you come back into this relationship and that relationship is
based on your wounds. So that person also has similar wounds, similar needs. And if you have the
same needs and yearnings for like fulfillment in that relationship, how do you reconcile that?
How do you hold space for like, how do I hold space for a wound that I haven't figured out how to
feel in my partner? And they have the same wound because usually we end up vomiting on one another,
generally speaking. And for folks like us, always being that go to person and giving so much
energy to be honest, I think sometimes we don't show up like that for our partners because we're so
drained. How can we? You know what, for me, I've had to step away from commitment because I feel
like my commitment is the people that I serve. Is that right? No, but that takes a lot of energy.
Every single day says, I know you walk in the office and it's like, I have to put so much love
into this work. This is passion. This involves my feelings. But by the time you get home to your
partner, your drain. So what, what part of that is you loving yourself though? Because it sounds like,
look, I'm a, I'm the kind of person that goes, we're going to keep it real. We're going to keep
it real because part of it is like part of loving ourselves is holding space for us to be loved
and to receive love and to give love on an intimate level. And if we're pouring all of ourselves
into our work, that leaves nothing for our partner and love because that's how you can't get love
unless you give love. And if you are, if you haven't had the practice or accountability to be loving,
then what are we doing? Right. Right. What is we doing? And I'm not just thinking about him,
y'all, because I know when I talk about everybody, right? Myself, but go ahead. Let me ask you this. So,
oh, I just kind of lost a train of thought because this is a series. That's a real big conversation.
But do you feel like your trauma response within the work that you do is always seeking to make
other people happy? Almost like people please. Yes. Oh, my God. We did a person now. Let me
and I am a big people. Yeah. Okay. Oh, my God. So let's stay right there. Right. Okay. Let's
stay right there. Okay. We find within the work that we do. We become huge people.
And when you say, what are we doing to love ourselves? Is it that? Is it when we please people?
We are loved. Is that what we consider love? Which naturally to me is it is, but it's not. Right.
But then if you because I made those group of people happy. Yeah. And I walk away and be like,
I met that mark. I crossed that tee. I dotted that. I got that grant. I got that donor. Yeah.
But then at the end of the day, you're like, but that pleased them. They didn't please me. But
pleasing them. Is that loving me? No, it's not. No, it's not. I'm such a big people, please.
Or so. It's not a personality test in our executive leadership team. And my flaws,
my weakness. I really had a good profile by the way. I don't play with them. My flaws is people
pleasing, unfocused, unorganized and over accommodating. And my staff was like, oh my God,
you over accommodate in your leadership all the time. So then staff later on, like even with
people pleasing, they feel entitled because it moves. It feels like, oh, I really appreciate
you doing this thing. And then it moves from appreciation to expectation, from expectation to
entitlement. Yeah. And then after it's so long, it becomes like, it's, it becomes a toxic
interaction. And it doesn't matter if it's with a staff friend or in the intimate relationship.
That's how they look. That's how everyone looks at you. Right. They don't look at you as human.
You know how many times in my walk, I have to tell people, I'm human too. Yeah. I have
feelings too. I don't know how I don't show it up to you. Yeah. But to do me like this hurts.
So how do black people specifically? Because we're talking about, you know, love. Black folks.
And how do we, I don't know, how do we navigate that in our relationship? Because we're most likely
nine out of 10, not nine. We can't work full time. That's like, I'm picking about it right now.
I told me a world everybody quit. So you can learn how to be present for yourself and your partner.
That's just how we go wrong. We can't work full time no more, right? Like we cannot do the work
that we do 40 hours, 60 hours a week in our sleep. When we go to the bathroom, when we're in a shower,
because Brandi, you know, I know you know how it go, right? When you were there taking a shower,
and you like, okay, I'm gonna make sure. First of all, I'm on a Zoom call in a shower. So, yeah.
Okay. And I think we, I'm driving, sending Luke, uh, uh, links on my way. One thing that me and my
executive team just learned with the work that we do. Yes. Is that we're the pioneers. So we're
literally putting our hand and foot in everything that we do. We don't have a blueprint. We don't
have no one to lean on. So it's, we're drained. Yeah. We're literally drained. So love demands. Like
I said, love is demanding. So love demands boundaries and boundaries of yourself. Because like,
I have to stop doing that. Taking Zoom calls in the shower. I need to be present in the shower.
I need to allow everything to be let go in the shower. And when it comes to my partner,
we struggle, right? And we struggle because we're, we're both come, again, people known as black
and generally speaking, we come into relationships with very similar wounds, looking for very similar
things. So the challenge in our relationships is do we, do we allow ourselves to be, um,
uh, what is it expanded? And do we allow ourselves to be, um, oh, this is a hard one. I don't even have
the word for it. But do we allow our BS to be put on front street? Because in partnerships and
relationships, all your crap is pointed out. You become each other's mirrors. Like you do this
thing. You do that thing. I don't like you don't do enough of this or you're complacent in this
or, hey, let's talk about sex. Like I need better sex. Like all of those conversations could be
taxing and demanding. And it could feel like you're under attack when someone saying, hey,
you don't kiss me enough or you don't hold me enough or you don't hold space. And when you're
coming from a long day of work, when you've poured into everyone else and your partner demands
things of you like presence, that could feel like an attack. Yeah. Like you don't get me. So hold
my hand. You don't kiss me enough, baby. I'm sorry. We kissing cousin over here. Okay. No,
but you're right. Right. And we got to find a way, I think as high demanding folks to breathe.
That's it. Like because what our partners are telling us what they need is important to. Yeah,
sometimes it's hard to. I know, but it is super hard to like the whole space where everybody's
needs. And I think we need to talk about it enough and talk about how we have to be accountable
in our own book crap. You guys. So we'll be back. We're going to conclude one of the love
conversation in the second, but we got some really stuff we probably will. But we got some good
stuff. You're listening to 92.7 FM, the black conversion show with your girl Brandi Grayson
and cousin Clyde. We'll be back in the Jeff.
All right. You're back or we're back. You're back because you're still listening to 92.7 FM WM DX.
The black conversion show with your girl Brandi Grayson and my co-host, my cousin, my own
air husband, Clyde. Cousin Clyde also. We're going to put some bass in my voice. We're going to get
cause I'm a man. That's how you talk. That's how you talk. Ain't no judgments. So prior to our
quick break, we were talking about love and how demanding love is and it demands that we expand,
it demands that we hold space for our partners wounds. And what I haven't figured out is what
elements or personality traits are required of us. Like what are these attributes that's required
of us to hold space for people we love in their wounds and their nervous system to support them
in regulating their nervous system. Cause that's what love looks like as we support ourselves. And I
know we don't have time to discuss all of that. But I'm just going to keep talking about it. Keep
talking about how do I say the dinner table, the dinner table at the dinner table. I feel like in
a lot of black households and I can't speak for everyone. We didn't practice the dinner table
tradition and not every night. And I think yeah. And I think that that may be able to help if we
start to implement that at least four times a week. Because that's the moment where a family is
all at the table. So we can check in with each other. How are you doing? Let's have this conversation
versus when we're out in public. And what we're talking about right now in public. Yeah,
I think that's a really good idea. So bring him back to Dr. Clive. Yeah, okay, okay,
cousin Doc. Okay, cousin Dr. Clive with the tools and the skills. Okay, I really like that. And
I think what's also very important for people known as black. And we're not just talking about
intimate relationships. We're talking about friendship children and family. Yeah. Um, it's like
we have to be deliberate in our love. Yeah. Because sometimes we get so caught up in our own
minds, our own stories, our own scripts, how our own day went. What was hurt? What didn't go well?
And then we bring it home and we forget to be deliberate and intentional and love. And I mean,
just setting our crap aside and being present and reminding ourselves why we're with the people
that we're around. Again, whether it's children or family, whatever, like I love you because
I'm grateful for you because and remembering that and being present and that and also remembering
love is a choice. Yeah. We really think that love just is this chemical reaction. And for some
people, I hear like I've had butterfly for 20 years. Well, a lot of us don't get that experience.
A lot of us have to choose love and choose that person over and over again. Yeah.
And the midst of their breakdowns and the midst of their their mistakes and the midst of them not
being perfectly. And I will say for black women, we have to work extra hard. We got guests today.
Are Sally are oh my god. I'm our senior heart. I used to say my name was like somebody else who's
a singer who starts with the letter R, but I will not say his name now because I'll probably get
in trouble for that too. So, but it's actually out of Sydney. So, I'm like that bet. So, you
don't Americanize your name really? I didn't. You all do that. I didn't do that.
At the moment, I was born in Wisconsin to that to me. But I've always been out of Sydney.
To be sure to sell it because I self-sale. I've been called Sally a lot of times too in the
community. She said our Sydney y'all. I didn't say our city y'all. Okay, please introduce yourself to
the folks. Hey, I came from the comments. Now, I'm in behind the mic. Okay, welcome.
So, I'm the founder of Midwest Mojadas, Born and Rees, Poet, what else? I'm scandalous. I'm not
to pre-new or I'm scandalous. I'm a CEO. I am an author. I am an author. I do a lot of things.
Exactly. Tell us everything. I've been I've been nominated twice for most influential Latino
Wisconsin. You have nominated twice by the same people? No, Madison 365 back in 2015. And then,
again, most recently, through the Latino chat and birth congress. Oh, I'm not the same day.
Why? Black person can't get nominated twice. Okay, 2016. See me see me see me see me see me see me see me see me see me
baby, I ain't working. I'm not fine with that. You know, they send me a text like, who we gonna
nominate? I said, I'm like, these black people. I got you. I have no brandy that since I was like
in my 20s. Yes. But we have to say how long go to have one. Because I'm still 27. Okay.
So 27. I'm only 28. Okay. Yeah. But I've done a lot of work. Social work in the community through
Nia Maya as well. Yeah. Yeah. Just done a lot of writing in the world. And I also do podcasting as
well in public speaking. A founder of an organization called Midwest Mojadas. Our mission is to close
the gender wage gap one story at a time. We teach black and brown women to take the stage,
takes up space, utilize their stories as a fountain of youth. No, as a phone for money as well,
income streams, all the things. All right, you're listening to 92.7 FM WMDX with your girl Brandy
Grayson and my cousin Clonie on the black conversion show. We have a wonderful guest, our Sally.
I didn't do the rolling of the call out of seven. One of our community leaders,
entrepreneurs. And prior to we were just discussing the divide between black and brown that exists
in how we really need to practice engaging and uncomfortable conversations one so that we can come
to some understandings in two creating spaces and holding spaces and telling the stories from
our heart. And I believe what you said is we should start the stories with what tagline. I
I remember when I remember when yes, and what does that do again? I think it brings us up to
like who we are to our core. Like I remember what was contact you can take that anywhere. Yeah.
But that's going to give us a little seed story about who you are and like maybe reflect a
little bit about your values about how you receive the world. And like what out of all of the things
that are going in your head, that's the one thing you're coming in today. And that I think will
reflect a universal value of which will break down all of those colonized ways of separating us
of thinking, oh, you know, she doesn't have she doesn't have this or she has that. And I want
to her what she has and all of that. But I also want my experience, right? My mother is a refugee.
She is from Havana, Cuba. So I am black and brown. I grew up in a very. You can be black and brown.
You're. I grew up in a household with plantains, black beans and rice. My mother
only really spoke Spanish. So I've experienced going into the school district where people
assume we were we were just black and spoke English. And my mother had to enroll us and get a
translator. So she can understand the enrollment system and how that held her children back
because now we were we didn't have a box to sit in, right? Yeah. The child can speak
English, but the mother can. Right. So now is the child translating for his mother. No,
because I didn't speak Spanish, right? So one thing that I knew that I do know from experience
within the Latino culture in Madison is that racism do exist. Like you said, do you speak
Spanish? How dark is your skin color? Do his Hispanics really like each other? Do Cubans like
Puerto Ricans? Do Puerto Ricans like Mexicans? And what I like about the head of all the bars,
baby. I feel you from experience, right? And I'm saddened because we're dark Latinos,
I've sat in a lot of this is brand-degreased disclaimer. What they say, I have no. I have
proof. It's true though. But I sat in Latino circles where they they are also racist to black people.
Well, okay. So they're not racist. They are anti black. Yeah. So we call it racist.
We say that to each other. Don't be that way. But then again, we'll say like,
Indio to each other. Yeah. So it goes like it goes always. Just for our listeners,
our celly is a community organizer and entrepreneur and business owner. And she is definitely Latina.
Okay. Yes. What Chicana? Chicana. And what's the difference? Well, Latina is like for all of like
Latin America and and Portuguese and Brazil. Even though they speak Spanish. So some of us speak
Spanish. Some of us don't. And it's like, yeah, we represent like whatever 18, 32 countries,
I forget. And but Chicana means that you were born in this country and you are of Mexican descent.
Okay. But it's more politicized. It came out like during the 1960s as like, you know,
sisters to the black. Okay. So what is Latin America? Okay. We don't have to get it to Latin.
Well, Latin. We don't have to. We don't have to. Okay. We're going to have to be back on this.
So you have to break down the X and the A. Okay. Yeah. You're listening to the black conversion show.
All right. It's your girl, Brandi Grayson on 92.7 FM. You're listening to the black
conversion show. I'm in the house with my cousin client. And we have a guest, our celly.
So thank you guy for staying tuned. So what I wanted to do is like move us along. So we've
talked about black love. We've talked about, you know, trauma. We've talked about some key
things about being deliberate in our love for each other in relationships, personal, family,
leadership and all of that. Because how we are anywhere is how we are everywhere. Okay.
And then we've also talked about Brown and Black, how we are disconnected. And we really need
to work on that. We also define the difference. We don't know if we did, but racism and anti-black.
So just for clarity, say for our listeners, if you're black, brown or non-white, you cannot
be racist. Okay. You could be anti-black. You could be prejudiced. You could be discriminatory.
But you can't be racist. Racists require or racism requires power. And in the context of white
supremacy in America, there's only one group of folks who hold power. And that's white people
starting with white men, usually old white men, you know, but we'll talk about that later with
your boy Trump and Biden. Biden. So oh, he looked like he just about to fall out.
Okay. We're going to talk more about Biden. I just want to hug him.
And we're talking about, and we want to love on him. We're going to talk about his trip to next
Saturday to Madison, because he's, he's in town last week or next week or whatever. But we'll talk
about him because I think I'm going to be there actually. So we'll talk about that.
And follow up on that. And we'll follow up on that. But so what I want to move us into is this
Supreme Court justice decision. And just so you guys know, this, I think it's a big deal,
but I don't know if it's a big deal. But let's take a listen to this clip that we pulled is called
the, they overturned the chefron doctrine, which basically basically said like, hey, there's certain
agencies and entities that get to have a say on to help control corporations. What they do,
how to dump toxic into water, what they put in our food, but this Supreme Court decision is a big
one. Can we listen to the clip real quick? Thanks. Supreme Court has officially overturned chevron
deference. This is probably one of the most important Supreme Court decisions in modern history.
And if you don't know what chevron is, that's okay. They don't really teach it in schools,
but I'll explain it to you. I graduated from Yale Law School where I focused in constitutional
law. So I'll try to decode this rather simply because you need to know how this works.
So basically chevron deference states all the way back to 1984 in the Reagan era.
It was a major Supreme Court case having to do with the EPA, where the court essentially ruled
that where a rule or statute is ambiguous, the federal courts must defer to a agency's interpretation
of that. Most day-to-day life and functions for you and I are run by federal agencies.
For example, the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, makes rules about clean air and the
environment. The FDA makes rules about food at the CDC, the Department of Education, the Department
of Transportation. We have the FBI, the IRS, the VA, the list goes on and on. They essentially
run our country and that's who we, the people, interact with the most. Now, here's the kicker.
The leaders of these agencies are not elected. They are appointed by the executive branch,
the president, which means when a president or the administration changes, the rules and the leaders
of the agencies generally change. So they'll flip lot from Democrat to Republican, Democrat to
Republican and back again. Anyway, most Republicans and libertarians absolutely despised
Chevron Deference. They believe it gives government and agencies way too much power and especially
for people who are not elected. Still, the idea is that these people are experts. Doctors,
scientists, whoever, and they should know best how to interpret the rules. And because there are
so many rules and so many functions and so many people in the United States, it just makes sense
to have experts and specialists cover them. But the court today completely did away with that and
said, no. They cases Loper right enterprises versus Ramondo was the secretary of commerce.
The court's holding is highlighted below. The APA requires courts to exercise their independent
judgment and deciding whether an agency has acted within its statutory authority. And courts
may not defer to an agency's interpretation of a law simply because the statute is ambiguous.
Chevron is overruled. The decision was split six, three conservatives on one side. Okay,
let's look, let's stop this recording. I want to help y'all understand what she's saying. Let's
put it in lay misterms here. So Chevron Deferron, I'm probably not pronouncing that right, but
this overturning of this decision basically says that we used to go to EPA or FBI or CIA with the
food to say, hey, can this company can catalog or nest Johnson, Johnson can they dump their toxins
into Lake Michigan? Before the agency was saying, no, they cannot because based on the
interpretation of this statute, right? So they're the experts, they're the people who follow the law.
I mean, I mean, you know, study the law, study the statues. So overturning this basically says,
like, hey, we don't, the corporations don't have to listen to their interpretations anymore.
And that they could actually make a decision for themselves whether something is legal or
reliable, right? So there's no enforcement to hold the corporations accountable. But this
is my thing. I'm not going to do like a devil's advocate, but I want to say this. We exist
in a capitalistic society where everything is already ran and predetermined in my opinion.
So having these agencies like when, you know, when Biden win or if Trump, when they get to choose
the leaders of these agencies and, you know, the folks with the expertise. So they actually
are deciding the interpretations, right? Because if I choose you, Clyde, to represent me as the leader
of finances, right? Let's just call it finance. Your job is to make sure, in my opinion, because
my agenda is always black, right? So I want to make sure I appoint people that's going to carry out
my black agenda, right? And black agenda meaning focus on black people, centering black people,
centering the most marginalize. Like the urban housing development, right?
Center, right? I will point you and your job is to make sure that our mission gets accomplished.
But that doesn't mean that our mission is actually democratic, right? Or inclusive, right? So
I just say all of this to say like it's messed up because now companies can do whatever they will.
And that's not okay. And the design prior to wasn't okay either, because the people that
was being appointed was determined by who we elect as president and their personal agendas.
And ultimately in politics, agendas are based on dollars who's paying the most, who's investing
the most, who's giving more to the campaign is not really based on the well-being of the people.
So what's your thoughts on that? What's your thoughts? So are they saying with this being overturned
that now professionals and experts will run that department without the president's input?
Well, they're saying that they're the people who are the experts with the knowledge.
Their interpretation no longer has to be followed by corporations. Like they don't have to listen
to the scientists that says if you dump that chemical and like Michigan, it's going to give
bad water or it's going to cause cancer or at put lead in our water. That's dangerous.
The super dangers. But I also want to point out the fact that we do have Flint and Michigan
and other states with bad water. And like even with concern, we have bad water.
You're listening to 92.7 FM The W. I said WMDX show.
It's not the WMDX show. This is the black conversion show. Go ahead.
Because even with these people in place, mistakes still happen. Like Johnson Johnson is being sued
on a big level for the baby powder. Possibly causing cancer.
Oh, it did. And so this is that. And predominantly, this is so scared.
But it also goes back into environmental justice.
I'm who is most impacted by environmental pollutants, black people,
vulnerable people and poor people, underserved folks. And that is a direct. I think this thing,
this overturning of the cheffron doctrine is going to yes, it's always disproportionately
impacting black brown immigrants. That is scary. That makes me very scared as a citizen in this
country like this country is already messed up. And now it's because that goes down to even like
our laws. Who's over the CIA? Who's over the FBI? Who's over DEA?
But it's hard for me as a black person sometimes because what whether who's over these departments
or agencies ever mad and we lose no matter what because we exist in this this this relationship
with whiteness and white power structures where the needs of black people and others are not
prioritized and or considered. So there's a part of me that wants to be so peed. But there's
another part of me that's kind of numb because what difference does it make? Because at the end of
the day, the people that that in order for things to change in America, the the people that that
need to be affected for change to happen is white people. Right. So anytime anytime white people
aren't directly impacted, then it's kind of like whatever, you know, this is cool. That's cool.
But when we say like with the drug is the opian, the opioid, when that became a issue in white
communities, then we put money behind it and we got medication, then we got services. But when
crack hit black communities and it was predominantly affecting black people, there was no resources
given into that. So for me as a black person, it's hard to pick a side or even stand or even be
mad or moved about things because we're so like we're just not considered. So it's like, okay, well
now this cheffron doctrine is happening. Now our environment is going to be impacted, but our
environment's always been impacted. And until white people and white liberals and white progressive
and white Republicans and white folks get upset about some of the decisions decisions will
continue to be made. And I don't know what that looks like because we also live in America where
white people are kicking down the door because Trump said come to the Capitol and do this thing.
So I don't know like I don't know where white Luke, our representative, hold on, let's ask our
white representative Luke, our producer, where do white people, I mean, like what is white folks
responsibility for America in which way we go right now? Look at Luke face. That's all loaded
question Brandia. I appreciate it here on the Friday morning.
Half of the floor. I think everybody's got a aspect of responsibility in this. I think that there
is a large part of why I do what I do is because I believe that there is a ability and responsibility
to address the things that I have privileged and I recognize that privilege and I know that
not everybody can step into some of the different aspects of this work because
everybody's trying to get by. Everybody's trying to do their own thing. They're their lives.
And so I think it's important to be aware of where everybody is an individual kind of fits into
that system and do the most that you can with what you have. I like it. So white people are sponsoring
white folks today. I should have sent Luke this video. Oh my god. It would have been so funny
right now for this part. I want to look. Luke is saying, hey, everybody has an individual
responsibility to do what you can in your life, understanding that there's a lot going on every day.
But one of the things I would also add to that is pay attention, right? Pay attention to what's
occurring. Pay attention to the conversations and go a little deeper than the surface because
according to Trump, we got immigrants coming here that's coming straight from prison and it's
like fear mongering and that's not true. We do have a lot of immigration and we do need to shut
down our borders. I will agree with Trump but not in the fear way more so in the how do we take
care of home and take care of our already homeless population and the rising cost of housing and
and the property that we're seeing across our country and specifically the number of homeless
people that are now sleeping on the streets. We have our own issues going on and we need to take
care of that first. We just don't have any room to help anyone else. Right. And it's hard to
help ourselves. It is hard for me too as a black person. I'm just going to come back to it to be
like, yeah, let's let everyone in the borders. When I see black people every day in our own city,
our own county and our own state suffering and we don't have access to resources. We don't get
mental health housing. We get all these huge projects, all these projects. And I get it. My
mother is a refugee, right? Like my mother came into this country the right way. So I get like,
don't say a right way. I'm a just actually a refugee. But I'm going to push back though too
a little bit. I think we do. We're the greatest country in the world. Yeah. We got the resources.
We could do it. We could do it. But we ain't doing it because the billionaires are controlling the
legislation, the president's corporations. They control our whole being, our whole socialization.
They control everything. They control what we hear, see what we have access to. And how do you
could overthrow capitalism and a capitalistic society? Won't happen. We're all driven by capital
because I want to be a billionaire. Look, I be a billionaire. I'm going to start slapping people
with my money and dare you to arrest me like Trump. I got 34. I'm buying companies and I'm changing
everything. I'm overthrowing everything. They don't kill you class. This is why I say what he's saying.
Look, I'm like, by that and overthrowing. Yeah. Thank you for listening. We have so much more
to talk about it. Yes, we do. Next week, we'll talk about Independence Day. We didn't get
it around to that. We'll talk about Trump. We got one more segment. We're talking about. Yeah.
We got one more segment. We confused because we said three and four. We got 15, 18 minutes of
recording. I was on cue. Look, I said we got one of them. Look, look, look, you see how white power
in people is scared now. Listen to the black conversion show 92.7 FM WMZ Actual be back. Well,
we'll be back. Keep listening. We confused today. We just don't know. That's all right.
All right. You're listening to your girl, Brandy Grayson. The host is with the most. I am the
host is with the most. It's okay. I would say most, but, but I do not, but I have your black
conversion show. I'm humble. Okay. The black conversion show with my cousin Clyde. We're talking
about all kinds of stuff, but what I want to do is transition us into something more fun because
then we were talking about laws and Supreme Court judgments and how that when you talk about anything
that's happening in politics right now in our government, it gets hot. It gets hot and it gets
really sad and you feel fearful and uncertain and you just almost like you're going to a freeze,
a flight or a freeze or flight or whatever that. But we got to talk about it, right? Because if
we don't, we just wait until election day and we're just all like, oh, well, let's move into
something fun. Yeah. Okay. Let's move into the gossip report, babe. Yes. Um, so let's get
into the gossip. So what is going on right now? You know, a couple of weeks ago, we talked about our
girl, angelries. Yes. The famous LSU basketball player and how she is doing so well. But guess what?
She took to the internet and she is now single. Oh, she had a man. Yes, she did. She had a man.
She had a man. He looked real good. He was mad. Who is he? He was tiny. I like Chinese. We're going
to find his name out. But I don't care about drugs because my man got a ball here. So let me keep
it focused. Okay. Listen to me. Um, so she went to the internet and went live and just said she
wants to focus on her college career, focus on school. She is now single. She ain't wrong. So maybe
we might get a little better basketball from her. She's already good. But, you know, sometimes when
the man out the picture, we do a lot of what? When a man out the picture, you give you perfect,
you get no, you have a problem to a woman at least a man because she didn't change her eyes,
her hair, her body. She working out eating butter, taking trips, loving on her toes.
Maybe we're going to see, but we're going to we're going to pay close attention. And speaking
of basketball, I don't know if you guys heard about LeBron James. I'm so proud of him. I heard
he having sex with somebody more on the team. I heard that too. I got the gospel. Do you got
the guy? He doing something because he's one of his teammates, Mama's. I did. I heard. I
saw that on the shave room, but I'm going to go figure it out. And then we I can come back with
the juice. Yeah, I heard he was married to her. Well, what we were going with this was if you guys
didn't hear Bronnie James, LeBron James son has been drafted to the Lakers. And some people are
saying this is a Kim Kardashian. It should be. Y'all better praise that black man get his son
millions. He could barely play. Barely don't come at Brian like that. What? No, you know what
for me? Some folks were calling it nepotism as it should be. They were on the internet kind of
going crazy. And they were saying that they feel like Brian paid some folks. He ain't got to pay
nobody. He look brown. James already got the what? I got to tell him if y'all want to renew my
contract. I'm a free agent. And if I'm coming back, I need y'all to put my son on the roster.
He told he told the whole league that was what it was. Okay. He told the whole league that he
wants to play with his son. And so whoever it was it was like whoever drafted Bronnie James.
Drafts me. He got got LeBron as a free agent. Do you think he got the Lakers going to let
him go? Well, he got his brother's better, right? His brother's coming next. His brother's
younger than him. So his brother's better. So he'll be joining the Lakers soon too. Yeah,
but LeBron's getting up there. So we'll see how many years he's got. He got that contract
that was a hundred and some million dollars. Yeah, it's going to be the first time ever that a
father's son played on the court. So there's a lot of yeah, because that's not something that's
really possible. Yeah, LeBron James. No, he's thirty nine. That's forty and black people.
I think he really forty nine. No, that looks at thirty nine. I don't believe that. Yeah, he's
been in the league for twenty one years. But he started as an eighteen year old right out of
school. I love LeBron James. Everything about him. I love him as a daddy. I love him as a player.
I mean, he take care. Look, he don't play about his wife. Yeah, I love him because that's how black
men should be represented. Out in front of the blackness. Yes. Oh, Lord. But we don't know
this nepotism, but that's how they get down the battle for you. You know, that was Northwest
and the Lion King on the Hollywood. This is how America is built. How corporations are built.
True. People don't. The people that become bosses and CEOs aren't because they deserve
to their own it is because of their own or somebody who knew somebody and they put them in that
place. That's why it's very in only way that you make it in America or even locally or whatever.
It's through relationships and networking, not because of your skills, because the people with
the best skills or abilities are not the ones that's chosen. Yeah. As I said, last week, y'all
and specifically with black people, we often choose black people that are mediocre or aren't
reaching the heights of excellence or brilliance. No, that's the fact. And they're not wrong,
right? Because I think that black folks need to be continuing their family legacy in areas where
there's millions and higher my kids. It's a company that I built. You're not wrong.
My kids work for me today. Two of them because why wouldn't I provide them with a job if I'm
providing 20 years now? One of them or somebody's going to be the first one to run open triage.
My kids is like, they will. My daughter was like, get your staff. These people is hard to manage.
They just always they nobody would be a whole new staff by the time she get old or they get
old. My baby is about to leave out. Entryoshisbomb.com. You just can't hand that over to anybody, right?
I'm going to hand it to you, Gladys, because I got about good to you. I'll give it to you.
I'm here as an intro. I just said helping her, right? No. So yeah, big ups of Ronnie James,
and the things that they're doing over there. Before we close out, you know, the BT awards just
happen. Black folks, I ain't watch it either. So I'm going to go back and watch it. So don't judge me,
y'all. I'm going to tell you more about it next year. Yeah, we just go get y'all who won,
and then we're going to go watch it. So best female artist and pop artists went to my
girl's sister. She was going up against people. I'd be y'all say don't you get them some big
Beyonce losing in the world only have to be the award, though, because we can't say don't show up.
Well, she is below her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wasn't giving a word. She treated me like that.
Listen to the Black Conversion show with your girl, Brandy Grayson, and my cousin Clad.
We don't want the gossip report. We're in being pop artists.
Oh, my, oh, I love. I love. I love. He is so dope. And then he went, oh, can we talk?
Oh, he is fine. And can we talk about the black man? We won't not burn.
Oh, okay. My wife's going to see him. My wife's going to say it's concert.
Oh, yeah, I remember that. No, no, no, that was just in Timberlake. That was a few weeks ago.
She's also going to usher later this year. Okay, look, he does. His wife is dipping off.
Yeah, man.
She likes to see this show. Check their wife. No, get
but can we talk about his speech at the BET Awards? We should have had a clip of that.
He went in, yeah, next he went in about like, oh, my God, we're going to have to, yeah,
because there was a few speeches that were pretty good. There was a few moments. So,
last but not least, best feedback. The hip-hop artists went to
Nicki Minaj. I like Nicki Minaj. I was her taste maker and I loved it. She did a good try.
Her butt looks real not proportionate. Like, why how you got all that money in your booty is not off?
It's like a smooth. It don't smooth into her. It's like Brandy Grayson booty,
because I told y'all, y'all can't see her. Brandy Grayson booty, she wears a fah-ha.
She got a sun dress up. Somebody said, you got a butt job, girl, that is a fah-ha.
Let me give you the Amazon leak to smooth out the butt. Okay, lift it up a little bit.
So, you can look like a superstar. Yes, but that is our BET Awards winners. Okay, go.
We love you. Thank you for staying tuned to Black Convergence Show on 92.7 FM.
WMDX with your girl Brandy Grayson and cousin Clyde. We'll see you next week.
Love y'all.
