Matenaer On Air Day 2: Public Cervix Announcement And Sports! (Hour 2)

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Shane Matt there with you along with Greg Bach and Calvin is on the board coming to you live from our studio and beautiful downtown

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you can always leave a comment there as well. We have a very, very busy show coming up for you today next hour.

It is Thursday, which means Dr. Kristen Leierly will be here for her public service announcement.

And she sent me this really funny email over the weekend. She heard a song from Tony Orlando and Dawn.

It's a classic. Yeah. That reminded her of a health condition.

You're going to have to just keep it to yourself now. And so we're going to kick that around next hour.

And then Paul Newton will be here from the act back me packing company. He is our sports guru.

And there's all kinds of things to talk about the room.

So stay close for that. But we're going to start off with unfortunately some breaking news out of Iowa,

federal law enforcement, multiple law enforcement agencies responding to a high school in Perry, Iowa,

with reports of a shooting and an active gunman and happened about 730 this morning at Perry high school in Iowa.

Right now we have no other information. There were reports coming in that there were multiple emergency vehicles and ambulances seen going back and forth from this high school.

As soon as we find out more information, we have no details yet on injuries or deaths.

But that has been some of the breaking news that happened this morning and just a right reminder.

One of the founders of mom's demand Shannon Watts put this on her Twitter feed this morning.

A reminder Iowa does not require a background check on all gun sales. Iowa does not require safety training.

Iowa does not require permits to carry hidden loaded guns in public. There's no red flag law in Iowa.

There are no restrictions on assault weapons or magazines. Iowa also does not have a waiting period or allow local authorities to regulate guns.

And these are things that one political party in Wisconsin has talked about doing here.

Certainly permitless concealed carry and no expansion of universal background checks or required safety training, which I think a majority of people in Wisconsin would like to see those things in place.

It's just I mean, I can't say the Wisconsin's leading the way on gun safety laws.

I mean, we have partly of concealed carry and the training to be concealed carry is a joke if I've been told correctly.

Oh really?

Yeah, I mean, you don't even have to be my friends that you don't have to be certified to give the training.

You don't you're supposed to be like four hours of training, but there's no there's no checkup on that they can't someone camp for the state is going to come to your house.

Like did you get all your training all your training or it's it's laughable and and I told you before the show I was I want spoke to the former believe the former now, please chief in recene.

And he and I asked him, I said, what do you think of all this? What do you think of like more access to guns? He said, he's like, I don't like it.

And he's felt that if you were going to carry a firearm, you should have you should be responsible for being tested the same way his officers were tested,

which was once a year, making sure you knew everything about the weapons, making sure you know everything about discharging the weapons target practice the whole thing.

You should be as trained as held to the highest regard as officers are.

Why would you not want people to make sure that every year that they get updated just to make sure that they know how to handle this.

I don't see I don't see why that's a bad thing. We can go off on, you know, infringement and that's exactly what it is.

I know, but again, I don't see why common sense measures like this are so difficult because I guess common sense is an infringement.

Apparently so yeah, apparently so. So that's where we I just want to let you know what was happening in Iowa.

Again, reports of a an active gunman at Perry high school in Perry Iowa.

No other information is available at this time and as soon as we get we get any we will pass that along to starting off with.

It's a mess there. I don't think there's any question that what's happening at the border.

The southern border is a massive problem. It is always has been yes and it has been for years and years and decades and decades and decades.

Now whitewater police chief Daniel Meyer has reached out to president Biden and other national and state officials asking for more money to help the city deal with an increase in immigrants from Nicaragua and Venezuela in his letter to the president.

The police chief noted that whitewater with a population of about 15,000 has seen 800 to a thousand immigrants arrived since early 2022 and it is a lot for these communities to try and handle.

There's no question. Yeah, and the police chief is coming at it from a I would say almost a humanitarian standpoint of like we need to help to help them not making this a political thing.

Not saying we've got invasions and help us before the terror has come and the reason why I bring that up is because where this police chief Mr.

police chief Meyer is being very thoughtful about what he's doing, making sure he can get the resources he needs to help the people who are there.

How is these people house these people and get I mean like one of the things I talked about was the fact that they would it would hire liaisons which creates jobs to help work with these individuals to get them what they need for resources, whether it's moving on or getting citizenship or asylum seekers or whatever.

Like these are the stories we need to hear is about humanitarian type work versus what we hear from our federal government which is scaremongering and just throwing out numbers and we yesterday Mike Johnson speaker the house.

Yes, along with other other other 63 other Republicans and other and other law makers from communities, sheriffs what not we're all at the southern border to talk about it.

And as I always like to say the clip we're about to play I shrunk it down a little bit, but all I took out were non statistics and non like facts.

Not verifiable not verifiable a lot of scare tactic a lot of fear mongering language type that you can find the full text anywhere just YouTube it Google it, but Calvin can you play that clip real quick.

The situation here and across the country is truly unconscionable we would describe it as both heartbreaking and infuriating and it's in less than three years that President Biden took office that this has happened.

About an hour ago we had lunch and there are a number of sheriffs that work and serve here along the border of Texas.

The sheriff of Terrell County was one of them is a former Border Patrol agent for 26 years and he said in his estimation it took less than six months for the Biden administration to dismantle 100 years of progress that the US Border Patrol had achieved.

I have find that hard to believe in six months time.

I mean like I said I clipped out another 35 seconds of language that was just about trying to blame Democrats blame Joe Biden.

And and and also praise former president Trump as well.

And this is what we do you know you have you have a police chief like Meyer who's trying to help people yes and you have people like Mike Johnson who's just trying to inflame the base and fear monger.

When president Biden got back to Washington late on Tuesday he put the onus on the Republicans to agree to buy partisan measures to find to fund immigration operations.

And there have been efforts to increase the number of border agents to increase the number of lawyers and judges who have to hear these cases because of the way our current system is set up.

Anything needs to be done. It needs to be our immigration courts need to be expanded.

Absolutely fully staffed so people can you know whether they can stay or whether they have to go and that's another conversation.

The court system the immigration court system is I mean it's torture and it's so backed up.

Yeah it's so backed up and that's and that and that leads me to my next point which is that's what they do in Washington with this in this situation.

It's a it's a political hot potato they go back and forth they blame they blame they blame and I have.

We have another clip from Maya Ward who is a political White House correspondent talking about her response to speaker Johnson's press conference play that clip.

And the other thing that you already noted this quote you know disaster it's a disaster the president's own design and the reality is this is an issue that both parties have failed to solve and it speaks to just how political the issue of immigration has become and it's pretty easy to see how the White House is going to respond here.

They're going to say well if you feel this way past the president's you know supplemental funding request it included 13.6 billion dollars for the border.

And it just left me wondering what does this mean for a border deal I mean when you hear Johnson speech today is there any deal that those Senate negotiators could present that is going to a piece house for public ends.

And that's the question you know if it's coming from the Biden White House if it's coming from Senate or congressional Democrats.

Will they accept it most likely not probably not and that can be said by the other side we know of situations where Democrats have purposely said no to things Republicans have proposed because you can't give each other a win.

Meanwhile police chief Meyer needs help 844 967 2789 844 967 2789 Jack from Merrimack is on the line. Good morning Jack. Thanks for joining us. What do you want to say.

Good morning. This is a totally fabricated issue. It started out in the 2015 actually it goes back farther than that but the most incendiary that started in 2015.

Oh they're bringing millions over the border. They're they're they're going to replace us and and then then then then illegals they don't take our jobs away.

So we got to put up and entirely close the border which is exactly what they're proposing right now by the way.

Now in 2016 to 2018 the Republicans had total control over their mission. They could have done something real about it and and without any help from the Democrats.

They could have imposed their own particular solution to it and they do nothing.

They're talking they're talking about impeaching my arches and and again this is this is the Republican of this whole thing cut back cut back.

Oh that agency of government doesn't work. It doesn't work because there's no money because you don't fund it. Yeah. I mean we're just about out of time Jack. So thank you very much.

If you want to join in on this 844-967-2789 we will come back with a couple of texts. Stay close. You're listening to Matt Nair on air. Yes. Second day on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I can't change me but I can't trace down. I said that down they changed me but I can't trace down.

Today I don't feel like doing anything. I just want to lay in my bed. Good morning. Welcome to Matt Nair on air.

I'm here with you along with Greg Bach and Calvin is on the board coming to you live from our studio in beautiful downtown.

Walk a shot good morning. He word. I'm sure it's chilly up there. It's chilly down here. Nice to see this sunshine. So I hope everybody's having a good day.

We were just talking about what's going on at the southern border. Speaker Mike Johnson making statements blaming of course putting the entirety of the blame on the Biden administration.

We're just talking about the fact that this has been used. Integration has been used as a political football for decades. Just for. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean Jack is not incorrect that there was a lot of misinformation happening especially during the Obama administration regarding this matter.

But the the border has been a political football forever. Let's just keep blaming each other and do nothing so we can use it against each other.

Yeah, absolutely. And you know, it's it's becoming tiresome because to pushing it back and forth just means they don't have to work on it then because they say we did this, but they don't like it. Well, we did this and they don't like it.

Well, do something together because you all look stupid.

844 967 2789. You can call and or text or leave a comment on the live stream. Andrew from Maine checking in.

Isn't Mr Johnson a lawyer or at least half of those who are at the border must be lawyers. It should probably take a couple of cases and just help out there while they're in the area.

Well, yeah. And that also brings up another thing that we discussed before we went on air.

What didn't Mike Johnson say before just as he took office as speaker someone asked what do you believe?

He said pick up the Bible. That's what I believe. I don't think there's a story of Jesus going to any border and saying this is disaster.

Don't let them in their terrorists. No, he didn't. So next discussion point please.

So far I got another another text from Andrew so far I have yet to see a plan for Mr Johnson and the mega rhinos just complaints that no one is meeting their demands.

Much like Tommy Tuberville Senate blockade where he refused to contribute to meeting his demands. Actual Republicans want to govern mega Republicans in name only are only interested in making sure nothing works.

Yep. I mean, I'd say that you don't have to just be a rhino or a dino. Do not want to make things work, but that's about the same thing. It's about right.

844-967-2789. Stephen from Green Bay. Good morning, Stephen. How you doing? Thanks for joining the show.

Good morning. I'm actually currently driving myself to the eye doctor. My wife got me in the eye with her diamond ring.

Sorry. Well then. Yeah. So, you know, I just find this ridiculous, you know, that, you know, Republicans want to talk about border.

But yeah, we're four days into the new year and we already have a mass shooting in Iowa. I know it's breaking news, but we already do.

And it's like, are you kidding me? You're worried about illegal aliens coming over the border. We have problems in our own country with people shooting other people.

This is ridiculous. You know, you want to point fingers at the Biden administration for something that's been going on for literally ever.

You know, there's a republicans in office in power and the border has been an issue, but miraculously we don't hear about it until there's a Democrat sitting in the White House.

And they don't want to talk about the glaring issue of gun violence in this country.

Instead, they're like, oh, no, we don't need any regulations, but I'll just keep giving them done.

More guns make us safer, Stephen. More guns make us safer.

Yeah. Arm the teachers, arm the dogs, arm the kids, arm all.

Yeah. And it's just, it is immensely frustrating. It is immensely frustrating.

Another texture. Thank you, Stephen for calling. I hope your eye is okay. Yeah.

From the 262, Trump and his boy, Bannon, grifted their gullible supporters with their fake fund the wall fund and did absolutely nothing.

And I think that's a really important reminder that people tend to forget about Mr. Steve Bannon and the fleecing he and his buddy did of Trump supporters and then spent millions of their donations, which were supposed to go to fund the wall.

Spent millions of donations on yachts and lifestyle and wonderful things and who did Donald Trump pardon Steve Bannon amongst many others, many, many others people who were fleecing his own supporters.

And I get what you're saying, Stephen, and I don't, I don't disagree that, you know, you're right. We're four days in and I'm sure it probably wasn't the first shooting on the fourth day of the year.

But I venture to say that Congress is big enough smart enough and well-funded enough where they could handle two things at once at once.

So why not? Let's take a look at that Southern border. Let's take a look at the immigration. Let's take a look at those. And then also after lunch, let's have a talk about.

I mean, you, you have very high expectations. I do. I do. I'm only asking them to work like, you know, three to four hours a day.

Craig, I'm sorry. They have donor, they have donor lunches to go to the time to actually govern. What are you talking about?

Yeah.

Well, when we come back, because the news is coming up in just a little bit, we're going to look at what the 118th Congress actually accomplished.

It's, it's really, it's really something. It has, it has, you know, as a common with maybe a, a favorite pastry.

I'm, what?

Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. We'll come back. I'll reveal the answer when we come back. Oh, well, now you're going to have to hang on.

Yeah. Appointment radio friends. Who shot JR and what is Greg's joke about? We'll see if either one or funny.

Okay. Coming up after 11 o'clock, Dr. Kristen Liarly will be here for our public cervix announcements.

Yes, she is every Thursday and very seriously, if you ever have a health related question or something that you're curious about,

she, she is a font of knowledge. Yes.

And, and it's really, it's really educational and it's a lot of fun.

Yeah, she's, she makes, she makes learning fun.

She absolutely does.

Also, Paul Noonan from the Acme packing company will be here at 1130. He is our sports guru and we'll be checking in talking about the Packers,

what their chances are, how things are looking. I don't know.

I mean, she'll see you never know stranger things have happened. It's true.

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It's a wonderful app. There's so many things. We can spend a whole segment just talking about all the ways to talk to us.

I mean, find me on the street and just stop me. Be polite, but we'll talk.

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Oh, I told you yesterday, I like four chances, but my head, I would have said it.

I almost blew it. This is Matt there on air. That's what it is on the civic media radio network.

I just want to lay in my bed. Don't feel like picking up my phone to leave a message at the phone.

Just today, I swear I'm not doing anything.

No, I ain't gonna call my hair. I ain't going anywhere.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'll just struck in my birthday suit and let everything hang loose.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, today, I don't feel like doing anything.

I just want to lay in my bed. Don't feel like picking up my phone to leave a message at the phone.

Cause today, I swear I'm not doing anything. Nothing at all.

Good morning and welcome to Matt Nair on air. So happy to have you along, Jane Matt Nair, along with Greg Buck.

And Calvin is on the board coming to you from Arnold Studio in beautiful downtown Waukesha.

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I wanted to give you a little bit of an update. We did tragically have to start off the hour with breaking news from Iowa, a school shooting at Perry High School in Perry, Iowa.

Now, according to the ABC news, at least one person is dead. Others injured in that shooting.

The scene is now secure to patients being treated at a local hospital. Their conditions are unknown.

The active gunman incident reported a little after 730 this morning.

An officer responded got their seven minutes later located multiple gunshot victims.

Although again, we do not know how many and we do not know the extent of their injuries.

But we will keep you posted as the morning goes on day four of 2024 and tragically our first school shooting of the year.

We were talking a little bit earlier about what's going on at the southern border and why we can't seem to get anything done as far as coming to an agreement on how to handle what has been a decades long problem along our southern border.

And John from a nominee falls texted in Greg, you give them way too much credit thinking they can do two things at once.

They can't handle doing one thing at once. They haven't even approved a budget yet for this year.

Listen, a boy can dream.

You got to have dreams and my dreams are of a low bar.

And I believe I believe that they can get two things done in a day.

And here's the thing is if they can't, I think we should pay them on a per subject basis.

Like this work.

Yeah, like, or they only work three hours of the day in the capital.

All right, that's six hours, five hours they don't get paid because that's, but the campaign paid them.

I'm not paying you to make phone calls for your campaign.

So let's work on a, let's work on a new payment system, a new salary system.

Oh, I think that's a great.

Yeah.

Yeah, spent some time on that.

Well, speaking of getting things done according to data analytics firm quorum.

The 118th Congress is currently in track to be one of the least productive in modern history.

Calvin, let's hear it for the members of the 118th Congress that you have to shoot for that.

Yeah.

You know, that doesn't just happen.

No, you got to want it.

You got to want it.

You got to work for it.

Yeah.

And, and, and, and, and just like my favorite breakfast pastry, a donut, zero.

See what I did there.

I did.

It's, I took you along for that ride.

I want to just give it.

I mean, seriously, you, you're, you're inspiring the kids.

You are, you know, using those untruths and the, the, the fighting to really get out of just helping anyone.

And that, that, that takes a lot of guts.

So in overview, um, just 20 bills have been passed by both chambers and signed into law this year.

Another four are currently awaiting president Biden's signature is as far below even historically unproductive first years.

So again, they're setting records.

Yeah.

We got it.

We got to give them credit for something.

Uh, 20, 20, 20, they won't be.

You want me to give them participation award?

Everyone gets a ribbon.

Everyone gets a ribbon.

A 2023 also marking the low point in a years long trend toward gridlock.

Five of the six most unproductive first years have been since 2011.

Yeah.

I mean, that's the thing we've been talking about first for this almost this entire century.

So far as every year seems to be the least productive Congress and, and, and the, and the following years like hold my beer.

We got you taking care of it.

We got this.

We got this.

Does lunch count?

Because I won't even do lunch then.

Another thing to keep in mind in this is from an Axios article of the 20 whole bills.

Well done kids.

Yeah.

Of the 20 that they passed the vast majority.

Either passed by unanimous consent or with minimal opposition, including multiple measures to rename veterans affairs clinics.

And another to mint a coin commemorate commemorating the 250th anniversary of the Marine Corps.

So it's not like they did nothing.

Yeah.

I mean, guys, and, and ladies, everyone, this is, this is a, this is a team effort.

Yes.

A for effort.

When you consider, compare it to the 117th Congress in which Democrats control both chambers in the White House.

They did actually pass several pieces of marquee legislation.

Yeah.

Including the bipartisan infrastructure law and the inflation reduction act.

Those two were good.

Those were, those were, those were kick butt as the kids say Calvin.

That's what the kids say.

Kick butt, right?

That's what the kids say.

As our resident, as our resident young person, the kicks buns.

Well, and now that you say that, it's interesting speaking of getting things done.

Yeah.

A president Biden's American rescue plan about three years after it was signed into law.

As prompted our country's three major insulin makers to drop their prices.

As of January 1st, Eli Lilly, Sonofi and Novo Nordisk, who make up roughly 90% of the insulin market.

They are now all officially offering price caps and saving programs to lower the cost of some of their most widely used insulin products to 35 bucks a month.

That's not, that is not a small thing.

I'm not kidding you.

Like when I read that, I almost started to cry because to me, I think of, I don't, you know, thank you president Biden.

And thank you for everyone who worked on it and supported it, whether regardless of what you, what side of the aisle you are on.

But I just think about all those people who are going to be able to afford it and they're going to be okay.

Like, can you imagine having to choose between your, your insulin and food?

No, I've never, I have never insulin and your rent.

I have never in my life had to pick between one necessity or another.

That's how, that's how privileged I am.

And I recognize that and I'm lucky.

That's, you know, that's why I think about those individuals because they have had to do that.

And now it's just maybe one less thing on their plate, one less thing to worry about.

I mean, exactly.

In Wisconsin, 8.8% of the adult population has diagnosed diabetes, including tens of thousands of people who rely on insulin.

So if this has affected you, we would love to hear from you at 844-967-2789.

This is not an uncommon condition and it certainly is not an uncommon medication.

And from what I understand that the original creator of insulin never intended this to become this enormous money maker.

No, that was not the intention.

No, it was to help people.

So the part of the American Rescue Plan actually threatened to penalize the companies if they kept the prices high.

The law reformed the rules, guiding Medicaid health insurance to remove a cap on the penalty that drug companies pay for listing prices above the rate of inflation.

So some things got done.

Some things are getting done.

I mean, and I believe this is part of the infrastructure.

Of course, it is because it's trains.

It's, you know, thank you to Tammy Baldwin for putting forth the money for the study for to bring a train to Wisconsin.

Yes.

I mean, granny, can we use more commuter rail?

Can we use better buses?

Absolutely.

But this is a step in the right direction.

And I don't want to give credit to anyone overly because that just seems like your.

I don't know.

Well, they're doing there.

Isn't that just doing your job?

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

Right.

You're accomplishing something.

Thank you for doing your job.

Yeah, exactly.

President Biden also issued expanded pardons for people convicted of simple cannabis possession.

Attempted simple cannabis possession or cannabis use on federal lands.

The president also giving clemency to 11 people serving what was called disproportionately long sentences for nonviolent drug offenses.

There were a lot of people who spent a lot of time behind bars after the three strikes your law, three strikes your outlaw.

And none of these people who are pardoned were federal prisoners.

So these are, these are small time drug offenses.

As many of them are whether you're talking about mandatory minimums or three strikes.

These are individuals who do not deserve to be in prison for as long as they are.

It just does not help anything.

Well, and president Biden also said criminal records for marijuana use and possession imposed needless barriers to people's employment housing and educational opportunities.

Absolutely.

Too many lives upended because of our failed approach to marijuana.

It is time that we write these wrongs.

And who knows maybe that wrong will be righted in Wisconsin this month.

As far as a certain king of popcorn has said, we'll see if that happens.

We will see if that happens.

And I'm going to read every single line of that bill because I want to see what's in it.

Where is the catch?

Where's the catch?

Where's the catch?

Because there's always a catch.

You seem suspicious.

I am suspicious.

I'm very suspicious.

I'm not talking like this is my suspicious voice.

The president issued a similar round of pardons in October of 2022.

This new order expands the grounds on which those initial pardons were issued.

The first round pardoned people for simple possession under one criminal statute.

This latest round pardons people under several other criminal statutes, including attempted simple possession.

So I think this is a good thing.

Again, we've talked to some listeners who are very concerned about even medical marijuana in Wisconsin.

And I'm not saying that that's not justified and certainly concerns about recreational marijuana.

But it's here.

It's here and the people who are being affected by it are serving in my opinion.

And this is where you know, we had that we had a discussion earlier.

We had last week about the legalization, the possible legalization.

I will say this with the individual who called.

I understand, but I agree.

And I think the individuals, I think it's important to have this because the more legal it is, the more people try to get to it.

And also, the individuals who are in jail right now are in prison.

It's disproportionate.

Oh, wait, disproportionate.

You mean, racially, racially, absolutely.

I mean, and also just you're destroying people's lives.

And you can't, I'm sorry, I do not agree with you.

If a kid is busted with, you know, an eighth in his pocket, he shouldn't be going to jail for 20 years.

That seems extreme.

Yeah.

So if it's illegal, it's illegal, make a log ticket.

Make a community service service.

But there are better ways of punishing crimes than just saying, well, we're going to throw you away until you cannot be reformed.

And you're just become a part of the system forever.

I just, I just, I'm very adamant about this issue.

And like I said, I understand people have their, their beliefs.

And I respect them.

But I know people who've gone away for prison for small time drug dealing and small time drug use.

And it affects them and changes them forever.

Without a doubt.

Andrew from Maine texting in marijuana is here to stay much like the political parties.

It's high time to lurk.

It's high time to learn to work with it.

Pun intended.

Pun intended.

Thank you for that, Andrew.

And why we still have time, Calvin, just one more round of applause for the least productive Congress are 118 Congress.

You did it, guys.

You did nothing.

You did nothing.

You did nothing better than anybody where we're selling.

You know what?

It's so you.

It's only, it's, you know what?

It's, what is it?

It's, it's almost noon.

Let's call it a half day in Washington today.

Celebrate.

Celebrate.

You've been, you've been in Congress for what?

A day?

Let's just, let's take a half first.

Just look at all you haven't done.

I'm buying, I'm buying down at the local donut shop.

Everyone gets a zero.

Nice.

Thank you.

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Nothing from nothing, it's nothing.

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Good morning and welcome.

Welcome to Matt Nair on Air.

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Calvin is on the board.

We're coming to you live from our studio in beautiful downtown Wakashaw.

Thank you for listening wherever you are across the state.

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We are switching streams just a little bit to talk about something that I just find.

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Keep in mind, please, that this is the company that settled a lawsuit for nearly a billion dollars.

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Settled a lawsuit for a billion dollars after they claimed that Dominion voting machines were corrupt and all of that.

And it was like, yeah, whoops, that was a lie.

Yeah, rough roll.

It was a we would someone call it a learning experience.

I would that's a good way to phrase it.

That was certainly a learning experience.

So with everything that we've going on in our in our country, issues at the border, fentanyl problems,

school shootings of which there was one today in Perry, Iowa.

We know at this time that one person is dead.

All of these things that we could be talking about.

COVID is still here.

RSV remains a problem.

It's a sick going around.

Yeah.

But what did Jesse Waters of Fox News ish.

Decide to focus on the other day.

A psychic.

Oh God.

He had a psychic on his program to give her predictions for the 2024 election.

Calvin, I believe we have a clip of Mr. Waters.

Let's go with that.

I've always feared fortune tellers.

I was just attempting fate.

But it a dinner party.

I was given a delightful reading.

And when I asked her about Trump,

she said there'd be a grave injustice this fall.

And we may not even have an election.

Therefore we needed to second opinion.

Paula Roberts is the English psychic

who is on set to give us a reading right now.

I would like Paula for you

to give me a reading

on President Trump.

Just the one card.

One card.

One card.

Let's do just one card.

Right.

That's what.

Yes.

Oh.

Oh.

What is that?

I mean, I do recognize that I'm at Fox TV.

I have a sense of loss.

A sense of loss.

But it's very specific.

No.

Let me move on.

It's a sense of loss.

It's as if he may be thinking more about what he's lost

and not still taking full advantage of what he still has.

First of all, I love her.

No.

I can't get that high.

No, no, no, no.

You.

You thought it was so English.

She pulled the death card.

Yeah.

And also she doesn't know Donald Trump.

You think about anything right now?

Except himself.

Exactly.

You think about what he has except for me was having for lunch.

When Jesse asks this English psychic lady,

what she saw for President Biden this year,

she answered lots and lots and lots of money.

Setting up Jesse Waters to say,

you mean from China?

Good job, Jesse.

Oh, you are the, you were a comedic failure

that Fox never really wanted,

but they lost so many of their anchors.

You failed your way to the top.

Well, and what I find very interesting,

again, all of this scrutiny on President Biden

and his financial dealings,

all of these allegations,

which remain as yet unproven.

And then today.

Yeah.

A new report comes out from House Democrats.

They released it today.

A 156 page report called the White House for sale,

offering concrete evidence that the former President

engaged in exactly the conduct House Republicans

are trying to pin on President Biden

using documents produced through a court fight.

They found out that

that'll Trump made almost $8 million

from foreign governments when he was in office.

I am just, I'm not shocked by that,

but it's the thing of almost,

what does it matter that we know this

because one part of the population won't believe it.

Also, there's nothing you really do about it this point.

But I think it's important to put it out there.

Yeah.

Especially considering, again,

according to this report,

according among the country's patronizing

the Trump's properties, China,

the biggest payer, $5.5 million second largest,

Saudi Arabia.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Our friends.

I'm basically psychic.

I saw that one coming.

Nice.

Thank you.

Real quickly, we have Mark from the sack on the line.

Good morning, Mark.

Thanks for joining the show.

What do you want to say?

Yeah.

Thanks.

And for Jesse Waters to have the,

to conduct a thin and old testament

terms of consulting a,

a somebody who's conversion with familiar spirits

is kind of rich,

that if, you know,

that technically reading, you know,

that in strict biblical terms,

he hopefully can, you know,

consult with familiar spirits.

He's consulting with a witch.

Right?

He's consulting with a witch.

With a witch of endorph terms,

and that even I know

in my limited knowledge,

the death card doesn't,

you mean, doesn't mean death,

necessarily death.

It means change.

I mean, from, you know,

from reading, you know,

throughout the course of my lifetime.

But I mean, it just is,

you know,

why isn't the religious right

up in arms and all of it?

Here, Jesse Waters is on,

on using Fox News too, you know,

to consult,

use a witch to consult with familiar spirits.

You make an excellent point, Mark,

as you usually do.

I mean,

thank you so very much

for checking in.

But it's okay.

It's just fun.

Why did you take those seriously?

What are you going to get offended now?

Mark and Jane?

I mean, that's,

that's the funny thing is,

whereas like if,

if Joe Biden sat down with,

like, you know,

a Catholic, they'd be like,

or he is Catholic.

He is Catholic.

But like, it's just,

that just goes to show,

like they can do whatever they want.

Well, it's,

it's one rule for me,

and, and,

and different rules for thee.

Oh, I like that.

All right.

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Good morning. Welcome to Metnair on air day two. Jane Metnair and Greg Bach along with Calvin on the board coming to you live from our studio and beautiful downtown Walker shot.

You can always join us to at 844-967-2789 if you want to call or text or if you're watching us on the live stream, you can always leave a comment there as well.

You can watch, watch us on the Civic Media Channel on Facebook, YouTube, and or Twitter as she does every Thursday at this time we are joined by Dr.

Kristen Liarly for our public service announcement. Good morning, Dr. K, how are you?

Good morning. I love the sound of metnair on air.

Thank you so much. It was it was a hasty meeting on Tuesday afternoon going, we got to call it something.

It runs. It has a flow to it. I think so too. We did have one suggestion for a we were taking suggestions yesterday.

Dr. Liarly for show names because this is kind of still a work in progress. Have you thought about this for a show name clear the air with Jane metnair and Greg and Greg the funny guy.

That's me. I like it. I think you could you could audition a lot of different things here. I don't think you can go wrong with this team.

Oh, thank you, Dr. Liarly. I really appreciate that. We are going to start by talking about what happened in Texas.

Oh, Texas this week, a federal appeals court on Tuesday ruled Texas hospitals and doctors are not obligated to perform abortions under a long standing national emergency care law.

The US court of appeals for the fifth circuit, which is pretty much all Trump appointed judges from what I understand.

The federal law does not mandate any specific type of medical treatment. Let alone abortion. The law does not govern the practice of medicine.

So Dr. Liarly in human person terms. What does that actually mean?

The law does not govern the practice of medicine. Give me a break. That's what my whole job is about.

Hostile politicians will and will not allow me to do and it varies from state to state. So let's back up a little bit.

What is this amtala law that we keep hearing about because that's really what this case is about.

So amtala is the emergency medical treatment and labor act of Congress.

It was enacted in 1986 and the whole point of this was to ensure this is a quote to ensure public access to emergency services regardless of ability to pay.

This meant that if you went to the emergency department, you would be taken care of period regardless of your of how much money you have.

Right. You have insurance. Doesn't matter if whether you have insurance or not you at whatever your issue is.

It is our obligation as medical providers to stabilize and or transfer you. That's it.

So here's the problem. If you show up with say preterm labor. This happened to me last week.

I had someone who showed up in preterm labor. We evaluated her. We stabilized her. She was good. We center off to a bigger hospital because we don't have the capacity to deal with early labor and really young babies.

You show up with a heart attack. They're going to do the same thing. They're going to make a decision about whether they can care for you there.

And if they can't, they're going to send you to a center where they can care for you.

Breathing problems. I mean, name any list of things that you could show up in the emergency department for.

But if you show up with an ectopic pregnancy.

Then what? Right. This is this is a pregnancy that's not viable.

It is never going to be a baby.

It is never going to be a baby. It is a pregnancy that has implanted somewhere inside of a person where it can't grow to be a full viable baby.

Whether it's in the tube, the fallopian tube, which is the most common thing.

It can be in the corner of the uterus. It can be on the ovary. It can be somewhere inside of someone's body on top of a large vessel threatening their life.

So if someone shows up with an ectopic pregnancy, but they're not immediately at risk of dying, they're not, they don't have a belly full of blood.

But we know that the outcome isn't good here. Can you treat them?

So now the other is now the answer is no, right?

Well, from a medical perspective, you're obligated to treat them. It's malpractice if you don't.

But from a legal perspective in Texas, you can't because you have to take the potential life of the embryo at that stage, typically, into account.

So let me offer a different example.

And I did see an ectopic pregnancy, by the way, last week who we treated medically.

And I was able to focus on her and what she needed and the best way to treat her within the context of her own life, which is how it should be.

Yes, it should be. And I just want to point out as well, Dr. Liarly, that many of these women want this pregnancy, want these pregnancies.

And then if you don't treat them in the way that they need, you can set them up so that they can, they can not conceive again if they do not receive the correct treatment.

Yeah, 100%.

You, it's imperative that they understand what all of their options are so that they can determine what the next best step is as they're thinking about not only right now, but into the future.

The last thing you want is your medical provider, not to be thinking about you in a holistic way.

So go ahead, Greg.

I was just, I had two questions on this.

You said you, you had one of these last week.

How far long is there an average of how far along you know when it's at the point where you're going to do a procedure like this.

And the other question is, is the embryo, well, I guess the embryo is, it's not, it's not a miscarriage at this point.

The only reason why I asked this is because in my head, their defenses, well, that baby, because they called a baby is still alive.

And therefore, you can't do anything.

You know, I mean, I'm trying to get inside their heads, which is a dumb thing to do, but still trying to understand it.

So when they have a procedure like that, is there a timeframe when it happens during the pregnancy?

Or can it happen at any point?

It's usually early in the pregnancy, but at any point early in the pregnancy.

And really, I mean, we've got options. I've, I've treated ectopics with nothing, where if I know that my patient has access, they're close to a hospital.

It looks like we've got lab numbers that show that the pregnancy is kind of resolving on its own, because if it doesn't get enough blood supply, it can't survive.

So sometimes you don't have to do anything, and it just resolves on its own.

That's a risky proposition, because you have to make sure that your patient is able to get the care that they need immediately.

If they can't, it could really, it could cost them their lives.

So you could do nothing. You can treat them with medicine.

And one of the medicines is methotrexate, which is another medicine that's like Mifipristin and Mesoprostil, methotrexate has been on the list of things that could potentially be banned.

It is associated with termination of an ectopic pregnancy.

That was the right, we went with this patient, because she had a job, she had to work.

She couldn't afford to have a surgery where she had to take a couple weeks off.

So, you know, we talked through all of the alternatives, we picked the best option for her.

And then the third option is surgery. And surgery is the only option if it's an unstable pregnancy.

If there's blood in the belly, if it looks like it's ruptured, if the patient's vital signs are unstable, then really you have to do surgery to save her life.

If you're just joining us, Dr. Kristen, Liarly is our guest for our weekly public service announcement.

And we're talking about a federal appeals court in Texas that ruled this week that doctors aren't obligated to perform abortions under a longstanding national emergency care law.

Dr. Liarly, when I see these arguments and I see some of the things put forward, I feel sometimes like they just don't care if women die.

They don't. So I actually, when you brought this up, we were going to talk about like yeast infections or something.

And James, like, let's talk about having in Texas.

So luckily, I have friends in Texas who practice medicine there, not in Houston, not in Austin, but in East Texas and West Texas in those rural areas where it's really pretty dicey.

And my friend who practices in West Texas is actually an attorney as well. So I asked him for his take on it. And this is exactly what he told me.

Physicians can provide stabilizing treatment except we can't touch the pregnancy even to prevent death or injury to the mother.

He said this is another example of lawyers making medical decisions that adversely affect the citizens of this nation.

And this is the climate that he is trying to take care of his patients and it's impossible.

And it's terrifying. It has got to be terrifying for women in these states who want a family, who want a child to then decide to go forward with this because if something goes wrong, they can't you can't get any help.

So as you mentioned, Jane, these are typically desired pregnancies.

And you know, I can share another story of a patient who I took care of luckily in Minnesota, which is a place where I can focus on my patients.

This is a woman who had undergone infertility treatment to get pregnant. She desperately wanted this baby, but she showed up 21 weeks pregnant bleeding profusely unstable.

I had to take her to the operating room immediately and I had to perform an abortion to save her life.

There was no question. And I didn't even like I stopped for a minute to think if I was in Wisconsin, I'd be really worried right now because this was before abortion was again legal in Wisconsin.

But I mean, even in Minnesota, as I'm trying to focus on, you know, like does she need blood? Who else do I need to call to come to the operating room? Who else do we need to notify in her life? How do we pull all the pieces together? Because this is an emergency. It has to happen right away.

And her heart is broken because she's losing this baby. But I could take care of her. Yeah.

What happens in Texas in this situation? Well, yeah, you die. You die. You die.

It sounds like it sounds like you're going to have to be one doctor who's going to say, I'm doing this and arrest me to see where they will go. Honestly, it's a put up or shut up.

It's like, if I'm a doctor, I have to take care of this person. And I will put my well being on the line because this person needs help. That's my job. As you were just saying, you don't do it. It's malpractice.

Then let the lawyers say, all right, come at me. Come at me, which is kind of what I feel like they're doing Wisconsin with the district attorney in Shaboygan.

He's like saying, I won't do it. But some people are saying, trust you.

Yeah. Well, I can tell you my friend in East Texas, she said, this is a quote from her. This is blatant disregard for the lives of women at a time when our maternal mortality crisis is at an epidemic level.

She said it angers me that these laws are passed under the under the guise of protecting lives while women's lives are clearly not valued or protected.

Yeah, it's pretty much pro birth, not really pro is like once you're born, if you get born, you're on your own kid.

Yeah, Dr. Liarley is here. We are going to kick around cannabis when we stay close to net air on air. We are on the civic media radio network.

Good morning. Welcome to net air on air.

I'm Jane Matt Nair and Greg Bach along with Kelvin on the board joining you from downtown Walker Shaw and if she is every Thursday, Dr. Kristen Liarley joins us from 11 to 11 30 for a public service announcement.

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Before we move on to talking about cannabis, Dr. Liarley, I just we have a question that we want to get to.

We were talking about this federal appeals court this week that ruled that Texas hospitals and doctors aren't obligated to perform abortions under a national emergency care law.

So Greg, what is the what is the question for my text? Andrew from Maine asked the question in the case of the East Texas doctor friend. Hypothetically, could the pregnant patients partners sue the state for malpractice that leads to the death of a patient?

There is a case pending in Texas right now and I'm a doctor, not a lawyer and I don't know this in depth, but there is at least one case that's pending where doctors or where patients are saying that they were inadequately treated because of Texas law.

And, you know, to be clear about my friend in East Texas, who is also a mom, by the way, she said she treats the patients and her hope is that a hostile DA will not come after her, but she knows that treating an ectopic could be actionable, it could put her career at risk, her life at risk.

She said she's exhausted and she also says that as the mom of a five year old girl who is already talking about being a mommy at some point in her life, she just doesn't know she doesn't see a future where she can protect her daughter's dreams and protect her daughter's life.

And again, I ask folks to wrap your head around the fact that no matter what you do, an ectopic pregnancy is not going to result in a baby, it's just not, it is medically impossible.

So preventing a woman from having a procedure in order to rid her of an ectopic pregnancy is not pro life.

And, but that's where that's why I asked the question, because in their head, you never know that's literally their stance, you never know.

Why not?

Well, we do know, and you can't take the ectopic pregnancy and transplant it into the uterus, that was actual legislation that was introduced in Ohio a few years ago, where they wanted to make it mandatory to transplant the ectopic pregnancy into the uterus.

But the funny thing about that is it has never been done because it is impossible.

Let me guess the people who put forth that bill looked like me.

Not nearly a handsome or funny.

Stop it.

But I do think, Dr. Liarley, that that is one of the things that infuriates me more than anything.

It is all these men primarily with no medical experience who are making these determinations because they know best.

So for those men, I just want to make sure that when you have a heart attack or a stroke that you go to your plumber for advice, because he should be the one advising you.

No, go to the doctor, go to the emergency department.

I love men.

I personally created four men.

Men are wonderful and men are affected by this.

Oh, yes.

That appeals court and those three white guys who they say in this, I read, I skimmed the ruling, they say that they don't want to make abortion mandatory.

That is really what their message is here.

When I'm saying I need to save people's lives and not just save their lives, but prevent the inability to carry a pregnancy in the future.

To preserve their future fertility, to preserve their emotional, their mental stability.

There's so much more to it than that just one point in time.

These are sentinel events that affect people for the rest of their lives.

And if they are not truly taken care of in a thoughtful evidence-based way, what happens after that?

And I also want to remind folks that, and this was also in Texas, there were at least five women I think who tried to bring a lawsuit because they lost.

They had unviable pregnancies.

They weren't able to get treatment for it.

One woman was very close to death before she could finally get treated.

They actually didn't allow one of these plaintiffs to continue in the case because she lost her ability to reproduce after she couldn't get care.

So they had, they said she had no standing because she, because abortion would no longer affect her.

This issue would no longer affect her because she was no longer, she could no longer reproduce.

I don't even know to do with that information. That's.

That is real handmaid's tale.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

All right.

We are going to move on in a couple of minutes that we have and we're going to talk dope.

Okay.

Okay.

You undercover cop.

It's.

No.

This is a thing.

Have you heard of cannabis hyper emphasis syndrome?

Never.

What?

What is that?

Tell me, Doc.

Go ahead.

Tell me what is it, man.

Hi, premises means that you're throwing up all the time.

Oh, okay.

Never mind.

Nope.

So cannabis hyper emphasis syndrome is something that we're seeing more commonly as we're seeing more frequent and casual use.

And over a longer period of time.

So chronic use of more than once a week, typically since adolescence can result in nausea, vomiting, dehydration, abdominal pain, and frequent emergency department visits.

They're actually seeing more and more of this in the emergency department.

And the way that I first found out about this was we would see it not uncommonly in women who were trying to treat their nausea related to pregnancy.

Oh.

So when I was in training 10 years ago, we saw a handful of women who came in were frequent cannabis users.

And they would just disappear from the triage area.

And we would find them in patient rooms taking showers because that's part of this.

You have this compulsive need to take a shower or a bath because that helps you feel better.

It's actually part of the diagnostic criteria.

That is wild.

Okay.

You're all lying.

What is this?

Using too much pot makes you feel nauseated, vomit, and want to take a shower.

And that's just, I mean, I'm so here's so here's the thing is that I mean this.

I don't do any drugs.

I just don't.

I know I look like I invented drugs.

But I've known people who've been doing this for a long time.

Like what is is it something about the marijuana that they're smoking or ingesting that's different now?

Because when my friends were younger in high school, this wasn't something they were afflicted with.

Is it something you'd have to intake for years and years and years and years?

And it's so interesting.

Yeah, it really is more about chronic use chronic frequent use.

And it just kind of builds up in your system.

And then you end up with this with these GI symptoms, this, you know, belly pain and frequent nausea.

And of course, if you're throwing up all the time, you're going to be dehydrated.

Yeah.

So they're seeing us a lot in, especially the pediatric population.

Wow.

With people who are just smoking, you know, large amounts over a long period of time.

Hey, it's about, it's about the portion portion control people.

Everything in moderation, my friend.

Thank you very much.

Yeah.

Dr. Kristen Lierley, always a pleasure to have you on this show.

Have a great week.

We will talk to you next Thursday at 11 o'clock.

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All right.

Let's talk Packers and debares.

How are we, how are we feeling about this?

I think we feel pretty good about it, but it's not going to be as easy as it was last time.

Chicago has improved fairly drastically over the second course, second half of the season,

especially on defense.

A lot of people, a lot of media in Chicago have, they've developed an increased opinion of Justin

who has been in the field to their quarterback.

In reality, he hasn't actually improved very much.

That's sort of a mirage.

But their defense has improved.

It's hot.

They started off as one of the worst defenses in the league.

We obviously destroyed them in game one, but they have been over the last four games by some of our advanced metrics

about the fifth best defense in the league.

Wow.

And a lot of that is due to the development of their secondary about Jalen Johnson and Tyrick Stevenson,

in particular, young corners who've come along.

Jalen's not that young, but have come along and have turned into some of the best shut down corners in the league.

The packers that you think are still the better team, but this is not going to be just a role like it often is against the Bears.

It just seems unusual to me that all of a sudden this late in the season, it's like, oh my god, we're finally getting it together.

Yeah.

It kind of happened for our offense kind of the same way.

But there's some catalyst here too.

At the trade deadline, the Bears actually made an acquisition, even though they were pretty terrible at the time.

They got Montes sweat from Washington.

Wait, what was the name again?

Montes sweat.

Like sweat.

Yeah.

That's great.

I love it.

Montes sweat's really good.

He was stuck on a very bad Washington team at the Bears actually still kind of struggle with past rush to that is their kill his heal on defense.

But sweat gives them at least the semblance of a good past rush, which is really all they needed for their secondary to start playing better.

He is a force.

He's not as good as Daniel Hunter who we faced last week and shut down.

So that's why I'm optimistic.

But that actually did to kind of catalyze their development on defense.

They've really been good lately.

They're tough.

Well offense is a different story, which is the other good thing.

That plays a role in it too, but defense is critically important.

And I can remember the first time that the Packers actually won the Super Bowl in the 90s after that long, long drought.

And that was what that was the mantra at the time is like defense defense is what wins Super Bowls.

Yeah, it is.

And you know, the Bears have been typically pretty good at putting defenses together, even when we've had our nice like recent rivalries with the lovey Smith bears when they've had their bad quarterbacks and their bad receivers.

They do bring the defense every once in a while.

And they seem to actually have the makings of a good one here up and down their personnel is actually pretty good.

Now offense is the different story here.

They're not hopeless on offense like they often are because they do have DJ Moore who is still one of the best receivers and football has been carrying them lately.

And their offensive line has gotten quite a bit better. They put a lot of draft capital into it.

But their quarterback is still a problem.

Justin Fields is not a good passer.

If you take out his running, he's one of the three worst passers in the league.

He's only really good when throwing to Justin Fields.

And occasionally to Colcometh, they're tied in who's he's okay. He's not great.

But there's only three people to shut down on this offense.

And it's DJ Moore.

If you double him, you'll be fine. It's Colcometh.

And then it's just not having Fields rush for 150 yards.

Now the problem for the Packers is Joe Berry lets all that stuff happen all the time.

Like he is not good at stopping Russian quarterbacks.

He's not good at shutting down one good receiver.

What is he good at?

What is he good at?

Absolutely nothing. Say it again.

Pretty much nothing.

There's one thing I'd say he's good at, which is that he's good at playing a really safe shell against quarterbacks who only can really eat.

He's actually kind of good against Patrick Mahomes for that reason, but that he can't do that big.

It's impatient.

But against anybody else, he's he's not good in Justin Fields.

He's not good.

Like if you have a running quarterback, various defenses tend to struggle.

And that's what you got here.

Like you have the best running quarterback.

So I'm a little worried about this game.

I don't think it'll be a walk.

I'll pick the Packers in this game.

But if Joe Berry screwed it up.

And the Barrett defense did enough to slow it on the Packer offense so that they lose.

I won't be that surprised by it.

The question I have then is, let's say after the game is done, Packers win.

What needs to happen next for them to move forward in one of the most ridiculous seasons?

I've ever witnessed as a Packer observer.

So if they win, they're in the playoffs for one thing.

So it's just automatic.

If they win, they are in the playoffs.

If they win there, they do not need any help if they win.

Okay.

They control all tiebreakers.

That is just that.

They can actually get in a couple of ways if they lose this game.

If they lose and Minnesota Seattle and one of Tampa or Atlanta loses, then they also get in.

So those are your masters.

They lose.

I'm math crazy.

Not that they deserve to be in.

And if they do win this game, they can be as high as the sixth seed where they would probably go to Detroit

for the first round of the playoffs or as low as the seventh where they would probably go to Dallas for the first round of the playoffs.

And you know, if you go to Detroit, you can maybe do some damage there.

I mean, or they can just beat us up.

Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a potential too.

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He is our sports guru to talk about all things sports.

We did touch on this a little bit yesterday, Paul.

But I want to get your opinion on douchebag.

I'm sorry, Aaron Rogers.

And the little back and forth he had going with Jimmy Kimmel.

So what's your take on that?

Aaron.

I feel like.

So a lot of people have a lot of different opinions on him.

He likes to shoot his map.

I've had for a long time.

But I think we don't give him enough flag for saying actively harmful things.

Like there's a lot of people who just promote random conspiracy theories or diets that don't work or.

So you're right, and so you're just, you're wrong.

You're wrong.

So I think it's like a lot of people withağı,

you know, probably something like that,

he's about to try and do the same,

but maybe this is actually the way we're talking about it.

Yeah, I think you know,

one of the things that he's trying to do,

you know,

isяниy,

but I'm not talking about that.

He's not trying to do it.

Because he's trying to do the same thing.

You know,

the vaccine stack stands without knowing what he's talking about,

is actively harmful.

And here again,

just shooting his mouth off without,

you know,

thinking of the consequences.

Like for, first of all,

I don't know Jimmy Kimmel from anything or, you know,

what not,

but Aaron Rogers certainly has no inside information

about the proclivities of Jimmy Kimmel

and connecting him to Jeffrey Epstein,

while maybe not meeting the legal definition of,

of defamation or slander or level.

Skating along there.

Skating along there.

Skating along there.

It's tough against public figures.

Yeah.

So I probably isn't.

But like,

it does rouse a certain chunk of the population

to make actual threat set people when you do that.

And you know,

whether it's legally anything that Jimmy can presume for or not,

it's really irresponsible.

It just is.

Like it's putting innocent people possibly in danger.