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Remembering Those We’ve Lost And UW-La Crosse Is Getting Spicy! (Hour 1)
As Goes Wisconsin · Thu Dec 28, 2023
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Good morning and welcome.
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We will start off with Dr. Kristen Leierley or a public cervix announcement.
It's going to be, it's going to be a good one.
Yeah.
I would have to be very, very careful.
And then on Melwalky.com's Matt Miller will be here and I'm very, very happy to talk
about movies and the best and worst movies of this past years.
So I hope you can stick around for that.
We're going to start off though with the, and I, and I know Earl also covered this this
morning, but this is, this is important.
This is big.
Yes.
Herb Cole, of course, a former Democratic U.S. Senator from Wisconsin, a former owner
of the Milwaukee Bucks has died at the age of 88.
Right.
Right.
What an influential man.
He wore a lot of hats.
He really did.
I mean, you know, he was, he was influential when it came to politics with the Bucks, with
his philanthropy.
I mean, he gave, he was worth millions and he gave away millions and he also opened the
door from what I understand.
He was a very generous man when it came to helping younger people get into college, college
and working and I've met him a number of times.
And he, you know, he was so meek.
He was very unassuming.
Right.
You, I mean, you would, if you saw him out and about, he was very affable.
He would talk to you.
He would say hello and he was just that kind of guy and coming from, it's always surprising
to me when you have people who have that kind of wealth and they're just, they're like
a bunch.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
They're just a normal person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just a regular person.
Herb Coil, of course, born in Milwaukee, a childhood friend of Bud Sealick who later became
the commissioner of the Major League Baseball.
And they roomed together.
They were rumies at the University of Wisconsin and were friends through all of their lifetimes.
I'm pretty sure that they used to meet at, what's the deli on the east side?
Benjus?
Benjus, I'm pretty sure that he and, and Herb Coil used to meet there at least like once
a week.
Well, I wouldn't be, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised by that.
I mean, I've heard of him sitting at Solis.
I've heard him sitting, you know, just, just hanging out.
Just hanging.
Yeah.
He got his bachelor's degree from the University of Wisconsin in 56.
Then got a master's in business from Harvard.
He also served in the Army Reserve from 58 to 64 and then helped grow the family owned
business.
Cole's grocery and department stores.
He was the company, he was the company president in the 1970s.
The corporation sold in 1979.
He also got into Wisconsin politics in the 70s.
He was the chair of the state democratic party for a number of years.
In 85, he bought the bucks for $18 million.
Turn that around for I have to profit, didn't he?
Yeah.
I think that worked.
That was a deal that worked out pretty well.
That worked out pretty well.
But you know, in all honesty, who knows if we would have had NBA basketball, if he hadn't
stepped forward and made out, it probably would have gone away.
They would have left.
Right.
I think that's almost a given that we would have lost the bucks and granted they went through
some rocky years after Cole bought them.
Sure.
But still, he was really passionate about the need to keep the team in Milwaukee and look
what it's, look what it's turned into because yeah, it's a dynasty at this particular
juncture.
It's looking pretty good.
Yeah.
Looking pretty good.
He donated $25 million to the University of Wisconsin to help build the Cole Center,
which is now the school's basketball and hockey teams, the largest single private donation
in school history.
Well, you know, there you go.
I mean, his commitment level, not only to the city, but also to the state was really evident.
You know what I mean?
He just, he, that's what I love.
You know, it's that, hey, just a normal kid from Milwaukee and his family happened to
build this big business and he went into politics and, and you know, I don't know if there
was too much politically that he was involved with when it came to like big bills or things
like that.
He was very involved in some dairy bills because he was always looking out for for Wisconsin's
farmers.
That's my understanding.
That was their big one.
Of course.
So he was pretty, he was pretty involved in that.
He also is something I did not know.
He never accepted a pay raise in all the years he was in the Senate.
So he drew a salary of $89,500 every year, which is the same pay he got when he entered the
Senate in 1989.
And then he gave the rest back to the Treasury Department because now they're making $174,000
a year.
Wow.
I mean, granted, it's not like you needed the money.
Right.
But I think there are other wealthy members of Congress.
If you ever posited that to them, they would laugh in your face.
Right.
I mean, it does speak to his character and the fact that he realized that he didn't need
the money.
And, you know, I'll just draw my regular salary and we just keep moving forward.
They're, I, in all honesty, there are very few people that wouldn't take that pay raise.
Oh, very, very few.
Very, very few.
And again, he didn't, he didn't take the raise and gave it back to the Treasury.
So I didn't never, I never met him myself.
Yeah.
But when I was looking at Twitter last night in some of the things that people were
saying.
And as you said, too, Carol, he was very affable.
He was very helpful.
One woman mentioned how when she was a kid, she got away from her mother at the sto, at
a coals and mom is frantically searching for her child.
And who comes over but this quiet and assuming man says, is this, is this little red head
yours?
Oh, no.
And it was her cold.
Isn't that something?
Yeah.
Liz did that to me once.
She wandered away.
Or did you just leave her there?
Ouch.
Ouch.
No.
What she, what she did and her wasn't there to help me, but that I will say this that the
other employees really rallied around me.
So he hired really quality people.
Yeah.
And we found her in, it was like one of those rings of shirts and she was inside hiding,
hiding.
Stinker.
I wonder where she got that from.
No idea.
That apple didn't fall far.
No idea at all.
We also have another loss that we wanted to talk about and you knew Bobby Rivers pretty
well.
Bobby Rivers and he was probably one of the nicest men too, just a wonderful, wonderful
guy.
And you forget how influential he was in the fact that he worked for Channel 12.
He was a VJ for MTV, when he left the city, he was a VJ for MTV.
But I don't think an awful lot of people do realize that he was the first TV critic or
film critic, the first African American film critic in the nation is that that is just
so hard to rep your brain around when he was with 12.
He became their film critic and he was the first African American film critic in the nation.
And a nicer guy you could never meet.
He was funny.
He was outgoing.
He too very approachable.
Just a lovely, just a good-hearted soul that he died at 70.
He was 70.
And from what I understand, it was a colon cancer situation with him.
And my father died of that and I wouldn't, it's horrible.
It is horrible.
It is horrible.
But he was a lovely, lovely man and he will be missed.
Absolutely.
And as you said, I know that I talked to him a couple times over the years before he,
before he left the city and went on to become, he was a, you know, the VJ and he was a
radio TV host and he did some acting as well.
And like you said, he was hilarious and very genuine.
Right.
That's, I mean, and so those, these two guys, let's take a look at this.
This is what Wisconsin produces.
How about, how about that?
How about, take that Chicago?
Take that ill and the entire state of Illinois.
I just, you know, we are always kind of like, look down like we're like some country
bumpkins and we don't produce anybody that's of any quality.
And here we have two men that have recently passed that couldn't be more quality.
And I think as you, as you mentioned, couldn't be more reflective of the values, right?
Right.
Of Wisconsin values about giving back and doing good and looking out for each other
and I mean, Bobby, if you asked, he would do anything for you.
I mean, if you hadn't needed a favor from him and just said, Hey, could you help me
out?
Absolutely.
He was there in a New York minute.
He was.
He's a great guy.
And I want to mention this too before I forget about it.
Bravo to her call for giving 100 million dollars of his own money in order to get the
Pfizer foreign belt.
Yes.
So 100 million of his own money and granted, he has a lot of money.
But it would have been nice if some other sports team owners decided that they could help
out a little bit throwing a couple of 50, you know, 50, 75 million, 100 million dollars.
That's, you know what?
That's stupid money to me.
I seriously, I, I got a hundred bucks on my purse right now and I'm feeling pretty
diamond.
Oh, we're rolling in a big cast now.
Yeah.
So anyhow, so they, we, we mourn them and they will be missed and I understand that there's
going to be a very public memorial for her.
Oh, I believe it at the Pfizer forum, I think that would be that, yeah, and that's, that's
only fitting.
Yeah.
That's only fitting.
Mm-hmm.
So rest in peace, herb coal and Bobby Rivers.
When we come back, oh, Kelly, here we go.
It's going to be quite a switch.
Have you heard about the chancellor at UW lacrosse?
You mean the former chancellor?
The former chancellor at UWS?
Everybody needs a hobby.
Oh, Kelly, it's something.
I guess it's really, it's interesting.
It's, it's very interesting.
It's some interesting questions about free speech and, you know, personal freedoms.
So stay with us.
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It walks away, it will all over.
Push on while I'm out and watch the show.
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And if you listen to me, yeah.
You feel more comfortable, yeah.
You feel more comfortable, yeah.
You feel more comfortable, yeah.
Good morning and welcome back to Asco's Wisconsin.
Jane Mattner, in for Kristen Brie, my friend and colleague, Carol Kane with me in studio.
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So great.
It's going to be, it should be a lot of fun.
It should be.
I'm going to tune in and try and see if I can make it till midnight.
Paul and I haven't made it.
I can't even tell you the last time we made it to midnight.
I know your Z.
I think maybe when the kids were little, and we kind of like stretched it out because they
wanted to go out and bang the pans and that kind of a thing, but yeah, no, and we don't.
We used to get all dressed up and go out for dinner, but we put that on the back burner
too because it's just like, no, why?
I'm just going to make something here.
We're having hamburgers and tater tots.
That sounds delicious actually.
We're going to have hamburgers and tater tots.
All right.
I would really love to hear your thoughts on this.
It's such an interesting story.
University of Wisconsin lacrosse Chancellor Joe Gao got fired by the board of Regents
last night after revelations came out about his involvement in the adult film industry.
Right.
So he and his wife, sexy, hacky, sexy, sexy, happy couple.
That's what they're online under that's their name, that's their name, sexy, happy couple.
And what they're doing is they're hosting like what I understand, like a cooking show where
they're invited.
They have vegan cooking show and they bring porn stars in to help in the kitchen to cook.
Right.
And and there are some videos that are out there.
They're on only fans as well as porn hub and X hamster.
I don't even know what that is.
I'm that that frightens me.
I should be happy for that.
I'm happy to hear that what that I don't know what that is.
Yeah.
Some videos have been viewed more than 200,000 times.
All of them were posted in the last two months.
Wow.
I'm busy.
Well, and recent, um, yeah, I, okay, here's the thing.
And we've made this statement multiple times, right?
In the fact that in our world right now, people are so caught up and weird about sex.
So and we understand it's a natural thing and people have it.
I've got two kids.
So I know all about it, but I just think there's a place and a time.
And I don't understand why he's so upset that he got fired.
You're the chancellor of a UW school.
But it's it seems like he's arguing it's a free speech issue.
It's I have the right to do this and it's not illegal.
What he's doing is not illegal.
You know, but Jane, come on, let's, let's talk about this about you, just say you and
me.
Okay.
Yeah.
Don't you think for one minute that civic media might pull you in and go, um, we're not
happy about this.
I would assume so yes, because I can tell you in my previous incarnations and working
on radio, there was a, there was a moral situation that I was held under.
You know, it was, that was it, like a morality clause, right?
I mean, when I leave this space, I am never not Carol Kane and I have to keep that in mind.
You are never not Jane, Matt Nair, people know who, who we are, we use our own names.
Right.
And, and so I just think that you have to be smart about this and I, I just don't, you
can claim first amendment and he's going to, you know, he's going to pursue some legality.
I would assume so, um, because now he's lost his gig, but I just, it, it's weird.
It's just weird.
Oh, and this is kind of mean.
I mean, he's a good looking man.
He's okay, but he is 63 years old.
Right.
I'm 63 years old.
I avoid looking at myself naked.
Oh, honey, I, when I get out of the shower, I race to get away, to pass the mirror.
Get, no, and, and I mean, there was even, and, and as we get to this stage in life, gravity
starts to take its toll.
Yes, it does.
And it's not, um, if, you know, God love them, that they're happy.
Yeah, absolutely.
And this is your healthy sucks life is in your future or your God love you, but I just
think you have to read the room, read the room 844-967-2789 if you want to call or text
or leave a comment on a live stream on Facebook, YouTube and or Twitter.
Steven from Green Bay is on the line.
Good morning, Steven.
What do you want to say about this?
So I'm going to come at you with a younger millennial viewpoint on, uh, awesome.
Um, so this is what I got to say about this.
First of all, thank you for telling me why this guy was like, oh, because I saw late last
night that he was like, oh, but I was having trouble finding the reason why.
So now I understand the reason why.
Okay.
Um, this is what I got to say about it.
Um, I have a problem with jobs, whether it's a university or school, disciplining people
based on what they do in their personal lives.
Whether you're not in the clock, um, for that specific employer.
And so I have a problem with that specific employer saying, well, you work for us.
So everything you do, whether you're at work or not, uh, we control it now.
Um, that's just an area that I've always had issue with.
And honestly, on his free time, if that's what he, if him and his wife want to do this,
um, more power to him.
I think, um, we also hear, you know, teachers, not only fans getting fired because people
find them not only fans, so what, um, like I said, it's just my thought process on the
whole deal.
Okay.
No, I appreciate that, Stephen.
Thank you very much for, uh, for checking in.
I appreciate it.
Eight, four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight, nine.
I don't disagree that what you do when you're not at work should not necessarily impact
your job.
And we, but what I think we do see that playing out a lot more with people saying racist
things or whatever on their video post or their Twitter feeds and, and, uh, ramifications
from that.
Right.
Well, I'm reading a, uh, there's an article in the UK mail, which is, um, always, they're
always spot on.
You know what I mean?
And it says the outrage over his behavior is evidenced by the unanimous vote by the
UW Board of Regents to terminate him as chancellor.
We are alarmed and disgusted by his actions, which are wholly and undeniably inconsistent
with his role as chancellor.
So that's their hook, you know, that is their position.
Right.
That's their position.
And, um, I'm surprised that in his, in his contract, there is not a morality kind
of a thing that I find that surprising as well.
We're going to keep this going.
The news is coming up next.
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This is Asgoh's Wisconsin Across the Civic Media Radio Network.
Good morning, welcome, welcome to Asgoh's Wisconsin, Jane Mattnayr in for Kristen Brie.
My friend and colleague Carol Kane with me live from our studios in beautiful downtown
Waukeshaw.
Calvin is on the board.
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We are talking about a former University of Wisconsin lacrosse chancellor, John Gao, who
just got fired last night, ending a 17 year career after he and his wife over the last
two months hosted naked vegan cooking shows with porn stars.
That's just okay.
I have so many questions.
One, I heard him, he was interviewed by somebody and he was talking about the fact that when
he got reprimanded for paying that porn star 5,000 to come and be a speaker, that the
student population actually grew and he attribute that to the fact that people want to go
to a place that's progressive enough to present stuff like this.
Okay, fine.
I have no hard numbers.
I can't, you know, confirm or deny, right, but you know, my I couldn't find a porn star
if you have paid me to where do they have a mainline to the porn industry?
I, where do they come from?
Could you honest to God, I mean, I, Jeremy, what's his name, who was a big porn star?
We had him on the show.
That's the only guy I could, could muster up.
I think we travel in slightly different circles than those people, Carol, just moderately.
We have a couple of takes.
I'm curious.
Do you have lost his job or is this just free speech?
And they shouldn't have fired him eight, four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight,
nine.
A text from our friend, Lynn, in a condom walk, she says, good morning.
It's called decorum.
And that's kind of what you and I were talking about as well, right?
Yeah.
I, it's just once again, you have to know what you're dealing with.
And if they've hired you to be around like younger people, students, they're not technically
children, but they are young adults, 18, 19 years old.
I would say if the cooking show was one thing with these porn stars, but I think it's
the videos that push everybody over the top.
The actual sexual acts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dexter from the five four one, when folks have different moral standards, who wins, apparently
the one who signs the paycheck, also the UW Regents are so worried about the reputation
of a chancellor, but not the diversity, equality and inclusivity of its students and staff.
Again, he, he said a John go, said essentially that he wanted to test the limits of free
speech.
After years, this is from the journal center, after years of hearing UW leaders talk about
the importance of free speech, Gao decided to test it.
He felt it was apt with the way the only months left in his chance leadership.
So, and he was making good money.
He was making really good money and he was the longest serving chancellor at UW to cross.
But I think that's, I think that's kind of his spin, if you will.
I don't necessarily buy that theory.
I just don't.
I think this is something that he and his wife are into, and you know, pushing, pushing
the boundaries, I just, I don't know if I'm, you know, hook line and sinker and that
one.
I just don't think I am.
I'll tell you this.
My pair, if I was at UW across, and this happened when I was there, oh, your pairs
would have lost their minds.
Oh, my dad would have, he'd be driving to lacrosse right now to unload everything to
pull you out.
Yeah.
But I think to the, the attitude toward pornography from our generation to younger generations,
like Stephen, who called his vastly different.
Oh, it's vastly, vastly, vastly different.
And the one porn star who came in to speak, she said, this is fantasy.
And I get it.
She goes, porn is fantasy.
I, I gotta be honest with you, there's, I was watching something on Netflix.
And it was, I mean, it was mind blowing.
I was saying, I'm like, what, I turned it off when Lou walked in the door because I knew
he would, he would look at me and go, what are you watching?
And I was just like, it was one of those things where it was just a Netflix movie, but the
sex just became unbelievable.
And I was, you're drawn in, you're sucked in, it's like going into a catfish hole.
You're just good.
Lord.
I can't leave now.
I was, well, I mean, the guy was super good, lucky, and that kind of stuff.
Well, there's a shock.
Yes, there's a shock.
Is there so many unattractive people in porn?
That's where everyone goes.
Well, look at who I was just talking about.
Why can't I think of his last name?
Jeremy, I know you're talking about who was not unattractive.
No, no.
Yeah, I mean, he was a pioneer in the porn industry, and when, and to tell you the truth,
when we did interview him, we were, I was out in Los Angeles and he stopped by the show.
And nice guy.
But yeah, mud fence, man, mud fence always Ron Jeremy, Ron Jeremy, Ron Jeremy, if he
was fired, Pat says from listening up from the 715, got lost his pension if he was fired.
But again, he was making like $274,000 a year.
I would hope he was able to save something.
Well, and he's hoping over the years, he is hoping that the food network is going to
come at Colin.
You know, he is.
He's going to, he wants to do some kind of niche food network thing that probably, you
know, at two o'clock in the morning, and it'll be the nude network.
I, I, once again, take the idea, Mr. Galco head, if this, if this is your thing, God love
you.
I'm just not, it's, and I'm not approved by any stretch, the imagination, but it's just
not my thing.
Right.
Right.
Another text, these college kids are old enough to vote 60% have cooked a meal, 75%
or so have had sex.
So how does this guy not represent the student body?
That's a good question.
Um, yeah.
I mean, he could probably, he's going to get a good lawyer who's going to spend all kinds
of stuff.
And that would be an angle that they could go for.
Definitely.
It will be, it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
Right.
Right.
Down the road, we're going to switch gears a little bits and talk about another loss.
Tommy Smothers, who was half of the comedy duo of the Smothers Brothers has died at the
age of 88.
And for people, I think our eight, I'm sorry, it was 86.
For people, Carol, you and I are both in our early 60s.
Um, I remember this so well, oh, this was must watch TV.
It really was.
And it was the first show the Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, which premiered in 1967, went
up against Bonanza.
Nobody could beat Bonanza.
Nobody.
Yeah.
Until the Smothers Brothers came along.
Yeah, I can still see them stand in there, you know, and it was such a simple.
It was a really a simple show.
It was.
Um, there was a lot of, there was a, there were folk singers.
Right.
Exactly.
And then worked their comedy into it.
Is the other brother still with us?
He is.
Okay.
All right.
And he's in his fifth marriage.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Well, that's how your role as a Smothers Brothers.
I guess so.
Um, do we have that clip, Galvin?
Uh, the, uh, I think it's impossible dream.
Let's hit that.
This is what the song means to you.
Do you understand, Tom?
Did you listen to me?
Did you pay attention?
Yes.
Did you comprehend?
Yes.
You did.
The impossible dream, the impossible dream.
Two hundred years ago, the world gave birth to a new nation, America and George Washington
was father of our country, George Washington.
George Washington, they said George Washington slept, Terry slept there, yet he was still
elected president.
Today, that is an impossible dream, that's right.
George Washington, I think we all remember the, George, the story of George Washington
in the cherry tree, George Washington chopped down the cherry tree, he just chopped it
down.
He just willfully chopped down the cherry tree, yet when asked about the chopping down
of the cherry tree, George Washington said, I cannot tell a lie, I did it.
I cannot tell a lie, I did it.
Thomas Dorian's believed that was the last time a president had a memory.
My friends, there's cherry trees in all our lives, today there are cherry trees being
chopped down and no one is claiming they did it.
No one will admit and say yes, I did it.
Why can't today's leaders just say yes, I did it, yes, I did it.
Why can't they say yes, I knew about the arms, they'll yes, yes, I smuck with other
men, yes, I still are, I am a lonely one, yes, I made a mistake and I sent a letter
to him, yes, I am a person, I am so vulnerable, I can't think this is a yes.
Like for 10th time, all of the Lord, Thomas had great moral lesson.
He taught us, he taught us that it is better to tell the truth about a lie than to lie
about the truth.
Yes, yes, yes, just say, yes, the impossible to reach.
I'm an example of Tom and Dick Smothers from this mother's brother's comedy hour.
They were only in the air for three years.
They started getting in trouble with the sensors at CBS.
Oh, okay.
I didn't realize that.
Oh, yeah, the Vietnam War was going on and they started doing some commentary about
the Vietnam War and I believe at one point the producers actually required them to pre-record
the show 10 days in advance.
So the sensors would have time to start cutting things.
Oh, golly, I didn't realize that.
I didn't realize they'd become that controversial.
See, I just remember it as just this kind of lighthearted, really fun kind of show and
it was family watch time, mother's brothers are on, take our TV dinner and go sit in front
of the TV.
The black and white TV.
Oh, God, yeah, I know.
Simpler time.
Oh, much simpler time.
I spent a lot of the time last night.
If you want to look at old clips from this mother's brother's comedy hour, you can find them
in YouTube.
There's tons of them.
Oh, sure.
And it's just so interesting to me how different comedy was then and how comedy has evolved
because they would take six and a half or seven minutes, which on the air is a long time.
That's a long time.
It's a very long time.
They would start out with, you know, a song and they'd go about two and a half minutes
into the song and then they would do their comedy bit that would go through the rest
and then do a little more song.
And it was just a, I don't think people would have the patience for that anymore.
Oh, you know what?
You make a valid.
Yeah.
We're so used to getting right to the, you know, it's set up punchline, set up punchline,
set up punchline.
You're right.
I don't know that people would, would be able to stick around.
They can't stand the development of it.
You know what I mean?
It's just, I, I was even watching, I was telling you off the air.
I was watching a Rickard Jervais special on Netflix and I even got antsy.
He's on for like, it's over an hour.
And I mean, he's, he weaves stuff in and it was funny, but I was just kind of like, get
to the point.
Get to the point.
I know.
Isn't that sad?
Get to the point.
Yeah.
Good.
Well, I don't know.
You know, the newspapers never left.
I even really liked that part.
Yeah.
He didn't really like that.
Um, I mean, in that album, I was like
doesn't surprise me.
Tell you the truth.
I would encourage you to go back and look at some of the videos, especially the mom always
liked you best, which is what I remember the most is again, I was seven, eight, nine when
the show was on.
So anything anything they said that was controversial went completely over my head.
You know, it is, it's just did.
Sure.
I didn't, it didn't register with me.
But the mom always liked you best and yo-yo man and all of that stuff, just classic, classic
comedy.
You will be missed Tom's mothers and that show set things up for Saturday night, you
know?
Oh, yeah.
And stand up comics and I get really, it really changed things for the better.
Mm-hmm.
I think I do too.
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four, nine, six party talking about the death of Tommy Smothers of the Smothers Brothers
Comedy Hour at the age of 86 and a texture has a really good point.
The Smothers Brothers brought a young writer on board named Steve Martin and Rob Reiner.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
Both of those guys were writers on the Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour.
So they, they, again, they, they just changed the face of comedy in so many different ways.
It's just, you know, in all honesty, it was just such a simpler time and it was fun where
you could sit down with your family and you could, I mean, that doesn't happen anymore.
I don't think, do you think people sit around and watch TV together?
I don't think so.
Everybody's so interested in their own stuff and everybody can watch it on their own
device.
So I don't know.
I think family still sit down and watch movies together.
Movies, yes.
Movies, yes, but maybe not TV shows so much.
I, I'd be hard pressed to even think of, like, must watch TV at this particular juncture.
I, because I don't have any set time when I sit down and watch a show cause I can pull
it up on anything.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You don't.
There is no appointment watching any time anymore.
No, there you go.
Because you can, because you can get it anytime you want, right?
Right.
Eight, four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight, nine, talking about other people we
have lost over the course of this year.
Karina from Milwaukee.
Good morning, Karina.
Hi.
Thanks for joining us.
Good morning, ladies.
You know what I was thinking about when you were talking the change of time and the
comedy?
I think it did change and in the worst.
And I'm not the, you know, the special is about it.
But if you notice guys, they don't criticize war anymore in this country.
And this is the setting they don't talk about is they talk about bathrooms, genders,
your name is, but they don't talk about that this nation constantly runs three wars
simultaneously all over the world.
And I think that's the sad part that before people were free of course speech and you
can say that that's where it started.
They start cutting them off.
And that's where we got that they're not talking about it at all.
I appreciate what you're saying, Karina, and I, and I, but I do think it depends upon
which comics you're watching.
It really depends upon the comedian.
Right.
Right?
Yeah.
I mean, I have some of my favorites and there are some that I can absolutely not watch because
it's so not what I'm with I don't like toilet humor doesn't do it for me, you know, stuff
like that.
Well, no, it's not imaginative.
Right.
You know, it's the lowest common denominator and and after a while, and I'm this way with
my movies too, it's like, okay, I know the word.
I've heard the word.
I've said the word.
You don't have to beat me over the head with the word.
Okay.
Yeah.
I get it.
You were watching Scarface.
Right?
Yeah.
No, but you know it two lines the same two lines.
Right.
Recognizing we lost Norman Lear this year who was 101 right so influential, so influential
TV writer, film producer, activists created all in the family, which then led to a whole
bunch of spin-offs Jefferson Jefferson's mod, right?
Oh, I loved mom.
I loved mom too.
There were so many Richard mall who was not court court.
He was 80 years old.
Yeah.
He played the bailiff.
Yes.
Look, we Tina Turner.
Yes.
Rosalind Carter.
Yes.
And we just lost Ryan Andre Brogher.
No, no, no, no, no, Mary to Fairfoss.
Why am I crying?
Oh, Ryan O'Neill.
Ryan O'Neill.
Just lost him.
Andre Brogher, who I mentioned too, was on Brooklyn 9.9, died on December 11th.
Matt Perry.
Matthew Perry.
Suzanne Summers.
I had forgotten that Suzanne Summers passed, but that was earlier this year.
Um, uh, shoot, do, do, do, do, do, do, October 15th, October, she, but she, I mean, she
fought breast cancer valiantly for 20s plus years.
Oh, my, I had no idea.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's what, that's what finally had came back with a vengeance, as it normally does.
That's tragic.
And, uh, but she fought for a long time.
You've got, uh, there's some, you know, some musicians and things.
Well, that guy, Tony Bennett, yes, he just died, that guy from parasite, he just died.
That was a really sad, right?
Very sad.
Very sad.
Um, P.M. Herman, Paul Rubens, we lost him.
Um, we've, I mean, it's just, it, it really was a very Alan Arkin.
Oh, yeah.
Little Miss Sunshine, one of the funniest movies you will ever watch.
Oh, God, I love it.
It's, it's, it's so good.
When he's teaching her that dance, you know, Jimmy Buffett, yeah, Jimmy Buffett.
We lost Jimmy Buffett.
If, uh, if you watch Sex and the City of Francis Sternhagen, was Charlotte's mother-in-law,
right?
She was married to Trey, who was, she was just brilliant in that role.
Just brilliant Bob Barker, Mr. Game show.
I remember about, and this is funny, my uncle was on the prices right and Bob Barker called
him down.
And I can, I can still see it as, as, as clear as day, Ovid, Smeadstead, come on down.
What was his name?
Ovid, Smeadstead.
And Bob, you know, even Bob Barker kind of was like, what's happening?
And I, never has there been a worst contestant on the prices right and Bob Barker was so
nice to him.
My uncle didn't know anything.
Is idiot.
Did he not win anything?
No, he was so far off.
I, all the people that were at the show that were my family, that the fact that he, and
it was because of his name, you know it.
Ovid, Smeadstead.
Ovid, Smeadstead, come on down.
And he couldn't, he couldn't, he couldn't kick this way out of a paper bag.
I'm, I'm writing this name down in case I ever write a book.
I'm going to use that.
Ovid, I.
Ovid.
Smeadstead.
Yeah.
It's, it's so good.
You didn't, is, is your son like Alexander Ovid?
No.
No.
You missed a chance there.
We, we, we also lost Shenado Connor.
Yes.
Um, I mean, a lot of Michael Gambon, who was Dumbledore in David McCollum, um, the man
from Uncle who I adored, Ilya Kiryakim.
Oh gosh.
Oh, I mean, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it mean it goes on treat Williams.
I loved him and the hallmark channel stuff loved him.
So many people rest in peace to all of them.
You will be missed.
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