Looking Out For Our Dogs And What Are Your Christmas Traditions? (Hour 2)

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I'm really anxious to learn more about this.

This started popping up in fall.

It's called atypical canine respiratory disease, started showing up in Wisconsin in late

October.

Keith Paulson is the director of the Wisconsin Veterinary Diagnostic Lab at UW-Madison.

Good morning, Dr. Paulson.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Hi, Dog.

Hi.

How are you?

Thanks for having me.

Appreciate the opportunity to chat with you today.

Yeah.

There's been a lot of discussion about this.

We're all big dog lovers here.

And you have two goldens.

You said Agnes and Martha.

Yeah.

Love Agnes and Martha.

How worried should dog people be about this respiratory illness that's going on around

right now?

You know, it's hard to say because we've seen increases in respiratory disease in our

dogs nationwide really for several months now.

And I think it's, you got to kind of sift through the noise, right?

We need to think about what we're reading on Facebook or Google.

And then really kind of think about that about our dogs, right?

And maybe when you have questions, I think there's been a lot of great review articles,

Journal Sentinel, just had a follow-up today of what we're seeing.

I were seeing it and what we can do to prevent it.

So I think just thinking about your dogs and your situation is a good place to start.

Now I have Sydney and Beauregard and I know they're fun, but they're big dogs but they're

older.

Are they more susceptible and what should I be looking for?

Yeah.

So great question.

I think probably what we should start with and then we kind of can get directly into

your question is what are we seeing?

What is this atypical canine respiratory disease?

And we're seeing mystery, dog illness and we're seeing all sorts of things, whether it's

a virus or a bacteria.

And what we're really seeing is really what we consider is canine cough complex and what

we're being reported from all over the state of Wisconsin, whether it's connocia all the

way up to superior, is we're seeing dogs that are coughing longer than the typical two

weeks.

And those dogs aren't really responding well to our front line of treatment and they need

to have a little bit more kind of our second line or more intensive antimicrobial therapy.

And so who, what dogs are those?

And I think really when we think about that is when we do our diagnostic tests, that's

what then kind of really frustrates a lot of our veterinarians and dog owners because many

of them are coming up all negative.

And we did have some one of our partner laboratories in New Hampshire.

They had done some next level genomics, metagenomics and next generation sequencing and had some

ideas of potentially what we consider a non-cultural bacteria, which is our microplasma is chlamidias

that kind of similar or they don't really grow in our normal, normal culture media.

And I think that then kind of gets to your question is that, well, if we don't really

know what it is, you know, what is it, right?

What is this kind of atypical syndrome is why are dogs coughing longer than normal?

We've had reports of dogs that are coughing for up to two months.

And so the dogs are healthy, they're normal, they're active, but they still have this kind

of chronic cough, which is you could probably tell my kids gave me something about three weeks

ago and it just doesn't go away.

So that kind of gets us back to your question is, you know, what do I do about my dog?

And this is part of why and what we're kind of telling all of our veterinarians and our

dog owners and we're getting lots of calls at the lab here at Madison and we have a lab

in Barron as well is that first thing we need to do is we need to make sure that our dogs have

like our core vaccines, our basic foundational level of protection from, you know,

because we're still seeing canine influenza and we found a new strain of canine influenza

in 2015 at our lab here with Kathy Kirth and Sandra Newberry.

But either you and even now we still are seeing those.

We're still seeing streptococcus opidemicus, which is a normal bacteria and horses,

but it causes respiratory disease and dogs.

And then we've actually seen some distemper and we've also seen some of our other

microplasma species and what that really means to me and veterinarians in the field is that,

you know, these are normal pathogens that are still out there and we haven't really been able

to find a new or a different pathogen yet we've been looking very hard across the country.

So making sure that our dogs have our core vaccines is really, really important.

Our guest, if I'm sorry, our guest, if you're just joining us, is Dr. Keith Polson.

He is with the Wisconsin Veterinary Diagnostic Lab at UW-Madison.

We're talking about this atypical canine respiratory disease.

Sorry to interrupt you, Dr. Polson.

No, that's okay. So after we consider our vaccines, then we kind of need to really think about

what about my dogs, right? You said Borgard and Sydney.

Yeah, Borgard and Sydney. So I would think thinking about their risk, just like any of our

risk whether you're going to a large group setting or not, is that if they have their basic vaccines

and they're otherwise healthy, you know, we don't want to bring dogs to a dog park or daycare

or boarding if they're not feeling well, right? Same as we don't want to go to work.

And then thinking about, you know, is my dog on some other type of treatment? Are they on an

immunosuppressive drug because they have allergies? Or are they being treated with a chemotherapeutic

because they have cancer? Those are the dogs that I wouldn't put into group settings because

they're at risk for other diseases, whether it's in a typical form or kind of our normal pathogens.

And then the next part is that if we notice something abnormal that we contact our veterinarian

with questions. So it's really an individual choice about what kind of risk you have.

I bring Martha and Agnes to daycare once a week on Tuesdays because if I didn't,

they would go crazy, right? They love seeing their friends. And when we decide not to do that dog park

or daycare, what are those consequences as well? So it's kind of a seesaw. Okay. Greg is a brand new

puppy owner. Yep. Maybell. She's four months old. So four months and some change. We just

and thank you so much for being on the show. I'm learning so much from everyone who's been

giving me great advice. She just went to the vet yesterday. It's funny that you just said

when you get sick, you should stay home from work. You know, and we keep our dogs home.

I went to the vet last night for her final vaccination. And my the guy taking care of us, he was like

sniffling and sniffling. I thought, oh, are you okay? Because I actually saw a nurse crying

because I think they put a dog down. But I said, are you okay? He goes, oh, yeah, I'm just really

under the weather. I'm like, why are you here then? But the question I had for you is she got

her final regular vaccination. Now it's okay for us to start introducing her to other dogs.

Maybe go to a dog park or start making those introductions because we've got a lot of dogs in

the neighborhood. And there are some I want to introduce some I never wanted to see ever. But

that's fine. It's a different conversation. But I forgot to ask this last night. So I figured

I'd ask you is if this is the first step if we can do this.

Yeah, you bring up a great point where we're talking about older dogs with risk or

cognitive treatment. Younger dogs that are maybe before their vaccine series is done is also the

reason why we don't take little puppies to dog parks as well. So I would think after your last

vaccine, so vaccines aren't immediate, right? They take a couple of weeks to really continue

boosting that immune response. So I'd probably wait two weeks before I did that.

Just to kind of make sure that they're getting that those good protective antibodies out there.

Okay, great. Okay. My sister has a dog. So I'm wondering for Christmas.

It's a good conversation having your family too. It's like, hey, how's your dog? What do you

just your dog go and spend a lot of time at dog parks? Then maybe I would be the dog home.

But I think it's it's always an individual choice. It's kind of like all the other kind of

individual choices that we make with whether we're eating undercooked foods like sushi or

raw egg and things like that. You know, we're we're constantly thinking about that stuff and

you know, these are low risk but not zero. So you kind of need to think about what's the

consequence of not doing it? You know, what's going to happen with my dog or my family member?

What are we looking at when comes to the future of this? I mean, this is a relatively new thing

that we're dealing with. Do you anticipate at some point in time there might be like a

inoculation of vaccine for this particular illness and dogs?

Very very possible if we find something different or if it's a combination of different,

like let's say we have we have a lot of dogs that are coming and presenting with flu

and or bacteria and then if this is an environmental condition, then maybe we would just have

like because we all had the exposure to the Canadian wildfire smoke all summer like what

what did that do? What did previous exposure to COVID do? How has that changed? So I think we

could have that and if we can what we did in 2015 when we found that new strain of flu, we developed

or commercial lab developed a new vaccine. So that's really the goal if we can find something

and repeat it. We haven't been able to repeat the findings from the New Hampshire lab yet,

although many labs are are trying because we want to make sure that we have the best

information available. Dr. Paulson, and as you said, and I just want to reinforce this too,

make sure you get your dogs vaccinated. It's really, really, really, really, really important.

Yeah. In the couple of minutes that we have left, because you do what you do and now we know you

have Agnes and Mabel, I have to ask you what do your dogs? Martha, I'm sorry, Martha and I just

what do your dogs get for Christmas? Oh, they have some raw high shoes and they also got some new

toys, which my seven year old has been playing with now. And she's using it to annoy her brothers

and they are very noisy. So I've had to hide them from your children toys and shoes. Yes,

the dogs are going to be ecstatic. Yes. Yeah, I know. I always, people always criticize me because

both my dogs have stockings that are hung from the mantle too. I mean, they're, you know, they're

my kids. And, um, and to go even one better, Sydney's back legs have been given her some

troubles. So for Dr. for the past three to four months, I've been sleeping on the couch because

she can't go up the stairs. That is dedication. Right? You know, it just shows how important they are

in our family, right? Absolutely. Exactly. Martha and Agnes are in our pictures. You know, they're

part of the family because they make our lives better. Dr. Keith Paulson has been our guest.

Thank you so very much for your time. He's the director of the Wisconsin Veterinary Diagnostic

Lab at UW Madison. Have a wonderful, wonderful holiday. Have a great holiday, Dr. And

stay close when we come back. White elephant Christmas gifts. There's some doosies on here.

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really appreciate it. Dr. Paulson, I thought that was really interesting. Fantastic.

And we will definitely have him back again. We're all our dog related. Let's talk about dogs for

the next four years. And I bet we could get we could keep that going. Jane, do you want to get another

dog anytime soon? When we lost Barkley two years ago, it was so painful. Yeah. And my mother,

we always had dogs when when I was growing up. Yeah. And when my mother hit lost her second dog

and she said, I can't do it anymore. And I was always like, but I think you're missing out. Mom,

why don't you get another one? Now I know why she did that. Understood. I just don't think I can

go through that again. I am not looking forward to the future for me because Sydney is 13 and

Beauregard is 12 and they're both big and they're both big, big kids. Yep. So I'm not I might be in

your camp too. You would not get another one. I don't know. I it's they're both. Let me just

say this. They will kill me. They will kill me. I'm almost choking up right now just thinking

about it. Yep. That's that that is just how vital they become in our lives. They really do.

Yeah. I have a friend who they put down all three of their dogs in the past year and a half

because of various things. And he had a very, very Zen look. He's like, I love those dogs. They

made my life better. But now I'm enjoying my life without them without worrying about food without

walks and poop bags. And he's like, he's like, I know we'll probably get another one. But he's

going through his grieving in his morning and is enjoying. And it's like, I feel like everyone has

that process. Some people like my friends waited 18 months, two years before they got a dog.

Another friend of mine put down his dog on Friday about a new dog on Sunday. Yeah. I have a

girlfriend. Yeah. I have a friend who did that too. I feel like I'm more in the former camp where it's

like, I got to let it go. I got to like, breathe. I need a little space, a little space first.

I always, but when my mom passed, I had this unbelievably, because I've had like 15 to 20 pets in

my life. Yeah. And a lot of them have already crossed over the rainbow bridge. So all I could think

of my mom who was not animal crazy, right? Yeah. That when she passed over, they're all like running

towards her. As Bob's like, damn it, Carol, why did you have to have so many of these dogs? Yeah.

I don't have treats. Oh, there's plenty of treats on the other side of the rainbow bridge.

Yes. Everybody gets that was the sweetest thing you've ever said. Everybody gets treats

in unlimited squeaky toys. It's just like the humans. Yes. It's all good. It's all good.

All right. A white elephant's gifts. It's a thing. I mean, that's not something we ever

did in our family, but I know a lot of families do. And there's an article in Wirecutter magazine.

A 32 absolute best white elephant gifts under $25. If you have one that really sticks with you,

give us a call and let us know what it was. 844-967-2789. The first one on here, I want just because

it makes me laugh. Yeah. I don't need it. Well, you don't need to. I don't need this at all,

but I want it and it's $26. And it's a garlic crusher that looks like a little Dracula.

You know, yeah. I mean, that one. I think that is so funny. For 26 bucks,

for a little stocking stuff or for Jane, why not? It's on Amazon.

See, that's okay. So this is the problem I have with this article. White elephant is not about

buying a cool gift and taking it to a party. It's about taking a present you didn't want or what

we do with our friends every every year when we can do it. Just finding something in the house.

Like giving them that literally hears the autobiography of Barry Sanders that I'll never read.

Who wants it? Like, these are great presents. Don't get me wrong. I really love these gifts. And I

yes, the, the, the, um, it's a, a total regular garlic crusher. Right. Well,

I told Jane once that Elizabeth, who is not a girl, a girl by any stretch of the imagination.

She's not happy unless she's covered in clay and, you know, that's what she does for a living.

But she got one Christmas, a music box shaped like a little castle. It was white. And when you

open the door, it was not a music box. It was a jewelry box. And when you open the door,

this little ballerina is spinning around and that's playing this music. I'm embarrassed to

tell you that I still have one of those. Oh, really? That jewelry box with the ballerina.

I still have it. She looked at me like, what does this had this? What did she do with this? Yeah.

And so it went. Exactly what she said. Straight into the white elephant. Yeah. Exactly. I mean,

some of these are very practical. Some of them are a sign of sadness like the power shower,

wine holder. Like, dude, you can wait till you get out of the shower. That might, that,

that seems a bit attached over the, over the top. But I have, I have always been,

I've always believed I've always been taught that a white elephant is to give away the present.

You don't want. And then you get to see the, like, because one person's foot massaging thing

is another person's, oh my God, a foot massager. You know what I mean? Like,

absolutely. Like, that is, that's the best part. But these are just, these are,

these are things I want. There's also a Cody Foster and company Taylor Swift Christmas ornament.

May I repeat something that I want? $25 from paper source. It does not look like her even

remotely. No, it doesn't know. Not even remotely. Yeah, not at all. No, no, she doesn't look like

anything. $15. You can get a, a nice smelly thing for the inside of your car. But that seems

excessive. I love the sushi tray, but they're actual socks. They look like sushi rainbow socks,

sushi socks box. Nice. Okay. Nice. Unkillable kitchen plants. I could go for that. Same.

Oh, I would totally take a, a, a constellation mug. Oh,

well, we will put this all in the show notes when the show is over. We're just looking at the internet.

If you look, I think these are funny. And, and again, I, I can see where someone wouldn't,

maybe not like their, their Dracula, their Dracula, garlic press, but I would happily take it off

your hands. It's just a conversation piece just to sit on the counter. You go, what the heck is this?

News coming up next. Stay close. You're listening to Asco's Wisconsin. This is the Civic Media

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In for Kristen Brie, Carol Kane, Greg Bach, or with me live from our studio in beautiful downtown

walk a show. We've got Calvin on the board. And you are always invited to join us call or text

at a 44967278984496 party. We were talking about dogs earlier in the hour. Dr. Keith Paulson was

here. We were talking about this new respiratory dog illness that's going around. And that got us

talking about losing dogs and then replacing dogs. And I just did want to do a little house keeping

and Angie from Monroe texted in listening in Madison. I will always own a dog. I'm an amazing

owner. Good for you. All right. I just put my baby a 15 years down last year. I'm so sorry.

I have her buddy who is blind. He is not fond of other dogs, but I've got plenty of cats and

chickens. I plan on adopting a bonded pair next time. Have a wonderful holiday. Thank you. Angie,

a wonderful holiday to you as well. I used to work with a woman who only adopts senior dogs with

medical issues. I know somebody that does. She has the biggest heart in the world. Wow. What is

her? Her whole thing is I'm going to give them the best last months they've ever had.

My buddy Bjorn does that too. It's it's right. What a heart. Yeah. What a heart. I don't know how he

does it, but it's it's amazing. It is. And then our friend Lynn from Economy Walk texted in too.

I put my beagle mix down in 1986. I can still remember sobbing. I have never had another pet.

Wow. Now I have a question. What is it's Angie from Monroe said, bounded or bonded? What does

that mean? I bonded pairs. So brother and sister or or they're just friends. Oh, got you.

You know, and they and they need to be adopted together. Oh, sure. That will happen with some

with some animal. And if they if that's the situation, most of the shelters will have that they are

to be adopted together. Okay. Okay. I know that Bridget has already brought up. She's like, you know,

she would love a little brother. I'm like, you made it for three weeks. I know that's that's

but she and and I she is 78% kidding. But it's that other 22% I gotta watch out for. They are pack

animals though. They I mean, Beauregard never leaves Sydney, never, never. And when I took her to

the groomer, he walked around for four hours crying. I was like, dude, I'm gonna go all bring her

back. But I mean, he was not he didn't calm down until I got her back from the groomer. I know.

So I think I'd sooner get a cat. Because I feel like she's because Maybell has so much energy.

And she's like, it's really coming out. Like it's she's she's relaxing. She's relaxing. She's

jumping. She's she's I mean, she's all pause in your face. Look at me. Love me. Kiss me. I love

you. There might need to be a balance because I don't know if I could do two of those at the same

time. Two two puppies doing zoomies or living room is is a lot. Yeah. Yeah. A catch is going.

All right. Chill out, bro. All right. 844 967 2789 844 90 967 2789. What are your Christmas

traditions? We're just a couple of days away. Monday is Christmas. So we're going to spend the

next half hour just talking about what you do at your household. What's the thing you eat?

How do you when when do when do you do presents? Yeah. Yeah. We do. It's Christmas morning.

When I got married to Lou, it worked out really nicely because his family did Christmas Eve.

Perfect. And then we did Christmas morning. I love Advent calendars. I love driving around

and seeing the Christmas lights. Advent calendars can be so elaborate. Oh yeah. They're especially

if you get some of the European ones. They're fantastic. Wow. And I know this is going to sound

stupid, but I still put out cookies and milk for Santa. You do your thing, Carol. Who cares?

What other people think? That's adorable. You know who doesn't like that? Parents who prank

their kids. They say, all right. My my my my mother would do that. She would put out cookie cookies

and milk for Santa and then a little bowl of sugar for the reindeer. Oh, we always we did carrots.

We did carrots and some carrots and and celery. It's interesting. I was talking about this the

other night. You know, the kids used my niece and nephew. When they were little, they would always

do the letter to Santa. I put out the cookies and the milk and the veggies for the reindeer.

And I would always write a letter back as Santa to them. And that would happen every year. And

that was just like clockwork. And then one year I realized I'm like, wait a minute. We're all doing

this. She's 16. She's 13. Clearly, this is now just become a thing where no one can bring up

the topic and just be like, let's we're good. Because you don't need to do that anymore because it

didn't feel so much like with you. It's a tradition. You do it because you do it. It almost felt

like, all right. It's time to do says and no one was like, you can stop now. We I mean, we all know

I mean the cookies and half of the veggies is fine. But yeah, that was a tradition for a long time.

That's really sweet that you did that. Yeah. Oh, I loved writing. I loved writing the letter

from Santa. And would you just compliment them as as as good human beings or I would say I say,

I hope you have a wonderful Christmas and enjoy your presence. And you've been wonderful.

You've been good little boy and girl. And always, you know, be good to your parents and that kind of

thing. And I start talking about flat earth. I really get deep into that letter. Like here's

a thing is y'all being fooled right now. This is not a round earth. That's why that's when

that's when they stopped the letters from saying, well, that that that was what killed it.

Calvin, what happens in your household? What are the rules of Christmas?

Pretty standard. It's actually been a fight in my house to last few Christmases. I think we should

move away from waiting until Christmas morning, open presents and do it on Christmas Eve before

we go to bed. Cut as Mike. But my sister will not go along with it. So we're still getting up

before we go to my grandma's house to open presents on Christmas morning. So is it the early hour

that you have a problem with, Calvin? Well, yeah, that's my thing is like we're past the whole

Santa Claus thing. So if we're half to leave the house at nine o'clock, why not sleep for an extra half

hour? Are you leaving that early? Well, yeah, we usually eat breakfast at 10 o'clock on Christmas.

Oh, okay. I can say. Oh, you're a breakfast family. Okay. I'm starting to see your point.

Okay, I yeah, yeah, we have a similar situation, but not as time. Oh, wow. It might be 11. I might

be exaggerating in a little bit. But still, you so you're you're getting up at seven o'clock.

I'm assuming around seven so you guys can get ready. At least by eight. Yeah, for sure. And then

you presseys and then get ready to head out the door. There's just something magical, though,

about coming downstairs and having all the presents. Yeah, absolutely. You know, on the floor,

underneath the tree, you plug in the tree, go get some coffee and a little piece of cringol.

A little eggnog with a little nippa. A little brandy. A little brandy in there. That's one thing

I cannot stand. Eggnog. Oh, I'll drink your leftover seriously. Because we'll

I was argon. I can't say I've ever actually tried it, but I'm going to assume I don't like it.

Why? I don't know. Isn't it similar to milk kind of? No, it's a sweet,

it's a sweet, creamy treat. I don't know. I don't really like drinking milk all that.

It's not a milk and yeah, not a milk guy. So I kind of just extrapolated that I wouldn't

like that much. Wow. We may have to bring some in next week and just give you a little,

a little taste test. And I am curious, though, about now. So what, what, what is your breakfast? What

is your Christmas breakfast like? Um, so my, they always make kebasa and ham. And then

usually eggs for whoever wants them, but I don't usually eat eggs. And then usually an egg

bake and some sort of potatoes. That sounds pretty good. I think I'm coming, I'm, I'm,

I think I'm coming with you. Or you could call my sister's house because we do almost the exact

same thing. You do breakfast. We do. So we do Christmas Eve is at my sister's house. It has

been since the kids were born. Uh, we stay up. We watch Christmas movies. We drink agnog. We talk.

The kids get their one present on Christmas Eve, which are new pajamas for the year because

they're sticking pajamas. Sure. Um, then we do all the, all the other presents on Christmas morning.

We go through the presents. It's usually me, my wife, the kids and her, the family. So a few of us,

and then when it's all done, they make breakfast, which includes an egg bake,

okay, bacon, pancakes, uh, sometimes some, uh, what do they call it, a monkey bread? They'll

make monkey bread. Sure. Yeah. So it's just a nice little breakfast. And then we have to like

eat and then bridge and I have to get on the road to go to my mother-in-law's house. Okay.

For the rest of that Christmas, which is a whole mother's name. So a whole other thing. I love

them so, so very much. I, I knocked it out of the park with in-laws. Absolutely. But last year,

finally, because there will be their three siblings, me, our aunt Sam, mother, my mom will show up

sometimes. So they'll be up to nine of us in there. It used to be one present at a time opening

up. So last year, we do. So finally, we adopted, which I had been talking about for years, which was

everyone grabbed a present. Everyone opened the same time, kind of showed off. Next round.

Because we were, we, one year, we didn't eat dinner till almost eight o'clock.

I, I dated someone who was in a family of snap nine. And they would do the same thing where

everyone took a turn to open a present. It would take hours. Yeah. I think it's hot in that room too.

It does. It does. Because there's so much champagne and wine. Texture listening on WAUK. My family

will prioritize the Packers before anything else when they play on Christmas Eve or Christmas day.

Do they usually play on either of those days? They are playing on their playing Sunday. Okay. Which

is, which is Christmas Eve day. Right. There you go. Well, they're going down to Carolina,

which is a game they should win. I hear. Well, it should. That's what people are saying. I said

by two touchdowns. Okay. Yeah. That's right. And if you, that's right. And folks, I said this

yesterday, if Carol's right, if Packers win by two touchdowns, I'll eat herring on air. And I think

herring is the fish of the devil. Well, and that was, that was my father's tradition. It was

not pickled herring. It was creamed herring. My mother loves pickled herring every Christmas Eve.

I love it. That was it. And we would also have punch. I know it was the 60s. And you say parents

weren't, weren't mean to their kids. Don't you do fondue too? And then when we had fondue. And

again, there were six kids with mom and dad. And we would take forever for everyone to get enough to

eat. Yeah. Because one little piece of meat at a time. Oh, sure. You know what I mean? One

little piece of chicken. Kids, the punch and cream airing is ready. Come to the table.

Punch and creamed airing. There's a draw. Oh, yeah. What are your traditions? 844-967-2789-844-96

party. Now, their texts, take, add Amaretto and or rum to the eggnog. Yeah, except, well,

yeah, we were talking about that. I had not known that eggnog would contain alcohol

until a few years ago. I just always saw it as a kid's Christmas treat. The eggnog. I didn't know

they put booze in it too. But I live in Wisconsin. Why didn't I make that connection? Brandy goes

with everything, Greg Bach, when you're in Wisconsin. It's best in all fashions. I like a brand.

I like a brandy old fashion better than a bourbon. The other thing I think we used to do maybe

pretty kind of rarely though was we would have grasshoppers. Oh, okay. Mom and dad would make

grasshoppers. You even know what a grasshopper is, Calvin? Besides the animal. I know it's minty,

but that's about it. It's a minty ice cream drink. Yeah. That was very popular again in the 60s and

70s. I'm sure. Yeah. I'm sure people still have them. Oh, of course they do. It's been a long,

long time. Just another way to let booze not taste like booze. Yeah, exactly. And what's the

what's the golden golden cattle and those are yummy too. That's got. I can't think of a

Kraliano, Goliano. Okay, texture from the 612 list in a WM DX. Lin. Oh, it's Lin. My elder sister

married into a family with two sons and not only did they open presents one at a time, but they

also carefully peeled the tape off so they could reuse the paper. Oh, my mom used to do that.

My mother, my mother has a tradition of putting all of the tape on every present.

My father would tape things. You needed a chain. So yeah, he would tape every edge, every edge of

the box. Yeah. Voice tape shut. Did your mother's do this too? My mother has a tradition too. It's

where she gives you a present and then halfway through you opening it, realized she gave you

the wrong present and will tear it out of your hand like you were a criminal. That was for your

sister. Nancy, I see you on the line. Stay with us, please. We're going to keep this going.

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What happens in your household? What thing do you have to have to make it officially Christmas?

We have to have pizza on Christmas Eve too. We've been eating pizza on Christmas Eve

Pie for 35 years if not longer. And is it a specific pie? It used to be I'm sure when we were younger was pizza and dominoes

But now it's always pop a Murphy's we love the takin bakes. I love the yeah, those are great

Yeah, so it's but if there's always pizza on Christmas Eve on Christmas Eve. I like it. Nancy from Wonnekey is on the like good morning

Nancy. Thank you so much for joining us goes Wisconsin. What's your Christmas tradition?

Hi, my family's Norwegian and our farm family

If this can left us with mashed potatoes and meatballs and cranberry sauce

Now we do love in the evening

We've been in the evening we'd have Tom and Jerry

And then on Christmas day we would have a place to steal

Oh

Now Tom and Jerry's get what what is a Tom and Jerry Nancy?

So it's basically made out of egg whites and powdered sugar and nutmeg and then you put him put like a

Half a shot of brandy and half a shot of rum in there. It's a hot drink of hot water

You can buy the mixture at grocery stores. Oh in H where I went this morning to get the cringo hat some

Oh, they did they had the mix they had the mix. Yep. Thank you so much Nancy. You have a very very very Merry Christmas

You do you love lefsa not not ludifisc though

No

I love ludifisc but we don't nobody makes it

It because it really stinks up the house. So I mean if you want to have a ludifisc and loves the dinner

You find a church someplace and they'll have one but we always always have love so always left it with butter

Just butter for us a lot of people put butter and sugar and then you roll it up

But ours is just like a little um

Looks like a little like a little crape. Yeah, it looks like a little

White brown polka dot at cigar

Okay

Is there you you were speaking Jane about the grasshopper is there a Christmas cocktail that you look that you make

Specifically for Christmas. Yeah

Or is it just wine o'clock for two days? That's what it is from no I don't I'm not

I like Bombay sapphire martinis or vodka on the rocks. That's it. All right. That's what I do nothing to foo

No, nothing to foo foo. I'm very madman

All right, just give me a tumbler full of vodka and I'm good to go and a pack of them filter lucky strikes and I'm having Christmas

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Over the holidays bill from a con and walk feel good morning. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm Eric Christmas

Merry Christmas all of you. I can't believe how you'll want to talking about

You're so Wisconsin and I'm wondering is that limited to Wisconsin or the Midwest because

You touched on all the traditions and the drinks everything else one thing in touch upon and

I want to say this tongue in cheek

We had also coming from festivals to the rest of us after the second or third rounds of drinks

We had the airing of grievances

Which always makes the new year real comfortable

As funny and in bill. What would you remember what were some of the biggest grievances?

Well, it's well look the harkenback to the 60s. What were out the hot topics

Kennedy

Oh my gosh, but none of it came on until it was inspired with alcohol. Oh, yeah, that always helps

Yeah, that third fourth round and brandy old fashions and things start getting a little looser. I'm hearing my grievances LBJ you are a schmuck

What are you doing this holiday bill? Where are you going to be?

Where am I going to be? Yeah

At my daughter's house

I'm sorry my house

One thing we do celebrate at

With the festivism of the rest of us

I've got two young grandsons close and age and then

Strength against each other. Oh, they do feats of strength. Oh my god

So we do have part, you know, it's amazing what we morph into

By the way, that's my dog in the back seat of my car. I was like is that your grandson?

I thought away. I wasn't sure if it was human or our animal. Thank you so very much, Bill

We really appreciate you calling and as always, thank you so very much for listening all the best to you and yours

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We always on Christmas Eve we go down my actually she's my best friend and she lives a half a block away

And she always has us over

With her family and so we celebrate Christmas Eve at her house and then we go to

I host or we go to my brothers or my sisters or whatever on Christmas day and are you hosting this?

No, you know my brother is yeah nice. No my brother Rick

But I you know, I always take enough food for the masses though

That's kind of like my M.O. like I walk in with like a half a dozen appetizers and yeah

I was in line to get a gift card yesterday at a gorsha store and this lady was yelling

Not at her friend, but a story where she was complaining so she was very high in volume and she was like

Yeah, I said I was bringing 200 dollars worth of lasagna

And they knew I was bringing 200 dollars because I said 200 dollars in lasagna. I'm like, who are you feeding?

Like you get to get a fight over this stuff

That's gotta be a big. I mean, I know people that have like 50 people. I

Can't even imagine

I give you major props if you can handle something like that that wow

That's where I'm happy that my family is like a little not fractured, but like I family all over the county

I have that I'm enough to do that. Sure. We don't do that. Right. Oh

Yeah, no

I said like I'm airs as manageable. It's like 15

That's still pretty good size. That's that's yeah, that's that's good size. We're smaller than we're probably at about 10

Oh, I'll be going over to my sisters. Thank goodness. She did all the work

The biggest discussion that we ever have is are we doing prime rib or we do in ham

And I'm always in the prime rib camp because I'm not a ham panel. I

I'm yeah, I would have loved to try ham for Christmas one year. We've never done that. We always do

Turkey started to start a new tradition. I'm not gonna try to bring that into the patty back her household. She's Turkey

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