Using Technology To Keep Language Alive (Hour 2)

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Using Technology To Keep Language Alive (Hour 2)

As Goes Wisconsin · Wed Dec 20, 2023

From the Civic Media Radio Network, moving Wisconsin forward one joke at a time.

This is As Goes Wisconsin with Kristen Brott.

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Now, filling in for the new mom, here's Jane Mattenair.

Good morning and welcome, welcome to As Goes Wisconsin, broadcasting live from our studio

in downtown Wakashaw.

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the board and you could always join us at 844-967-2789 if you want to call in and or text.

I'm so excited about our next guest and this has been many months in the making, Adrienne

Thunder is joining us, she is the Ho-Chunk Nation Language Division Program Manager Adrienne.

Thank you for joining us, how are you doing?

I'm doing great, thank you, thank you for having me.

Well, this language app that has been long in the making, tell us about the Ho-Chunk

Language app and why this was so important to get up and running.

Yeah, that's kind of a long story but the short version is, this is something that our

tribal members have been asking about for several years and it has been several years

in the making.

We did have a kind of a rudimentary app several years ago and so people kind of got a nice

kick out of that that was nice to use back when they were just first coming out.

Since that time, the contract with that particular outfit that we used expired and so we kind

of thought about what we wanted to do with the new app and you know things were changing

so quickly with technology then, lots of bells and whistles and you know there are so

many applications like Duolingo and Rosetta Stone and all types of other language apps

that we're doing some really cool things and so when we started asking about it, we found

out developing something like that with a language that hasn't been used before.

The development process is expensive, so that was kind of our main hindrance at that

point and we were talking about about three years of development work that would need

to go into that and of course each year of that came with a so-em-priced tag, pretty

hefty.

So we were working on it for a while just in terms of planning for things that we wanted

to see and hopefully the time was right and soon enough we came across the language

conservancy and we talked with them for a little bit about their work with other indigenous

languages and they told us that there was a way that they could to help us develop an app

and that they had used that with other tribes previously and so it looked like a pretty

nice plan and then they helped us with the grant writing to the federal government so we got

a chunk of money to help us out with that and we were on our way.

That's really wonderful. It is. I've been so interested in this when I first saw this article,

it was in WPR actually. Adrian Thunder is the Ho Chiang Nation language division program manager

and we're talking about this new app that they've come up with for people who may not realize

this Adrian. There were some very concerted efforts to kill the Ho Chiang language.

Well, there certainly were. So in addition to things that had been happening to us anyway

historically, either removals to lands westward, Minnesota, Iowa, South Dakota, places like Nebraska

and then in addition to that there was the boarding school era that began in the late 1800s which

was a really concerted effort to try to replace our language with English of course and kind of

force us to, you know, take on American ways or American ways of living and so that really

caused probably the biggest dent in our language survival all this time and so we've had generations.

In fact, I think people would be surprised to know how recent the boarding school era was.

It was in the time of my grandparents so, you know, in the early 1900s or mid 1900s rather

and I think people would be shocked to know. I mean, they're still in the boarding schools that

exist today. Of course, they're very different creatures than they were back in the day but,

you know, they're still with us, you know, and I think people are surprised to see, you know,

as late as the 1960s even there were some efforts that were taking this enough out Indigenous

languages. That's that I did not realize that they had been around that recently, Adrian,

until the 1960s, that's pretty shocking. What what what what to have your grandparents

said about their experience in these boarding schools? I think like a lot of other people, they

didn't speak that much of it, you know, I think it was an experience that was, you know, so horrific

that it's just really hard to to try to express what that meant in any in any kind of meaningful

way. And so, you know, again, they just try to get on with their lives and try to carry on

the best they could. And they carried the scars for that, you know, for generations to come,

actually. Oh, I believe it. It was us today. Yeah, I believe it. Did they, do they still speak,

speak Ho Chiang? Yeah, my grandmother did, you know, so she, it took her a little while to adjust

and come back, you know, let's come back to it. But yeah, my my my parents, my aunts and uncles,

my dad siblings, they all spoke Ho Chiang in the home when they were growing up. So within the

home, my grandparents taught them all there is that they knew about Ho Chiang language and culture

and then outside of their home, they told them, you know, you have to learn how to get along in

the world, you know, and learn English and learn a trade or go to school or, you know, do the best

you can outside of the home, but when you come back home, you know, you need to be Ho Chiang.

So how can people use this app? I'm just so curious about it.

You know, and I think that's the coolest thing about it is that, you know, we're dealing with

younger generations and I think there's just so much more imagination and of course, technology

to help them with different ways of expressing themselves. So, you know, if you look around today,

it's just really gratifying to see so much proliferation in the popular culture.

You have fashion designers, you have musicians, you have poets, you have artists, you have,

you know, all actors, actresses, you know, I mean, you're seeing more indigenous people appear

in lots of different places where they hadn't before. And so I think, again, in the various ways

that people are able to express themselves, a language will become that much more, you know,

appealing and that much more inclusive of everything that they're experiencing today.

Sure. Adrian Thunder is our guest. She is the Ho Chiang Nation Language Division program manager

and we're talking about this new app that has been developed to basically essentially teach people

how to speak Ho Chiang. What are young people say about this? I can only imagine Adrian that the

first words they want to learn are the potential naughty words. Yeah, I think they kind of picked

those things along the way from family. That's almost, it's the same wherever you go. I just

think that's hilarious. Yeah, I would say though, like so we offer high school classes in Ho Chiang

in five Wisconsin public school districts where in Black River Falls, Toma, Wisconsin, Dallas,

Bearaboo, and Nikusa. So in those high schools, we offer Ho Chiang, at least Ho Chiang one and two,

there's, we've been adding schools as we've been kind of going along and so some of them are a

little further along. But I would say that right now our high school students, they're really

interested in a course of the, you know, the cultural ways and they want to learn songs and they

want to learn, you know, prayer and they want to learn, you know, different kinds of things that

they can do with it to express their Ho Chiangness. And so of course, that's definitely something

that we're interested in wanting them to do. There's a student organization at a couple of the

schools and they've been talking about, you know, contemporary native issues like murdered and

missing indigenous women. They talk about rock your mocks and, you know, just rock your mocks.

And so, you know, again, they're bringing their creativity and their experience as, you know,

teenagers to language and I think that's really gratifying. I think the other thing that's really

cool about the app is, again, we've used some of those young people's voices for the recording

session. And that was really neat to say. I bet. In fact, yeah, one of my aunties, she's 86 years old

and she was one of the elders that we had on site working with the youngsters and she was so happy

to hear the young people using language. You know, you're just so gratifying for her to hear that.

Oh, I bet. I bet. It must, is it an extreme, is it extremely difficult to learn?

It's, you know, it's a little, it's, it's, oh gosh, I wouldn't say it's harder than, you know,

Spanish or, you know, anything like that. You know, I think some of the sounds are similar to

sounds you would hear in the German language, for example. So they're not, you know,

too different, but at the same time, you know, it's a different system than English, of course. And

so if you grow up in English speakers, it's, it's an adjustment and it'll take time to learn,

but yeah, it can be learned. Well, can you give us some phrases in in Ho Chiang just so we can

get an idea of what it sounds like? Okay, I can do a quick introduction. And then I, you know,

in full disclosure, I'm a novice speaker myself. I'm, I'm coming along learning the language

along with a lot of others. Oh, that's great. I need to excuse myself ahead of time if any

of the Ho Chiang speakers are actually out there listening to me. But anyway, everybody's

a critic. Yeah. Hi, Nipe, Hini Katigui. Ho Chiang Khrajira, Adrian Thunderhingai Day, Naga. Oh,

I'm sorry. Ho Chiang Khrajira, Ahuginanga, Hingai Day, Naga Makskade Na Rajira, Adrian Thunderhingai Day,

Ho Chiang Klingwich, Division Manager, Watwenongshina. Yeah.

That was great. That was, that was great. I guess I, but it is it, it is not a written language,

correct? No, it most Indigenous languages haven't been written for quite a while. And I would say

back in the, you know, 60s, 70s, 80s, there was a lot of, you know, disagreement, I think,

among tribal members that we write it down. And that was a taboo at that time. But as it became

plain to us that we would need to develop some sort of teaching and writing system,

we eventually came around to using the International Fanatic Alphabet to help us with our language.

Yeah. That, that, that, that's, that's just going to make learning it so much easier,

especially if you're, if you're an older person trying to, trying to learn a new language.

Yeah. And the writing is, it's familiar at least. We use the alphabet, you know, that everyone's

familiar with. And there are, of course, diacritic symbols that make the, the sound different.

Right. Other than that, I, I think it's, you know, visually recognizable.

Adrienne, if people are interested, where can they get this, this app?

It will be available through the Google Play and also the Apple Store, the ISOR iTunes Store,

or the App Store. So yeah, I think anywhere that, you know, of those two major outlets,

most people get their apps. Yeah. And is it, is it called the whole chunk language app?

Um, I can't remember the name that we had decided on.

It's official name. I think it's, um, whole chunk white penis. But if you, if you use whole chunk

as the search, you know, it'll come up in any online dictionary. Well, I'm so excited for you.

And I'm so excited about this app. Adrienne Thunder, the whole chunk nation language division

program manager, really has been a pleasure. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Thank you. I appreciate your time. And thank you for letting me share this with your audience.

Absolutely. It's been lovely. Stay close. When we return, Terry Bell, news director for Civic Media,

checking in from downtown Milwaukee, as we await President Biden, you're listening to Asgos

Wisconsin, across the Civic Media Radio Network.

Good morning, and welcome. Welcome to Asgos, Wisconsin, Jane Mattenair,

in for Kristen Brie. Greg Bach is on the board. Just a reminder, the Bucks going to be hosting the

Orlando Magic tomorrow night, starting at 630. If you're listening on Ash Cush,

air support, WI SS in Ash Cush, and you could catch the game. Again, this is tomorrow night,

Bucks hosting the magic on WRCE news from the center in Richland Center. Obviously,

lots of activity in downtown Milwaukee today, President Biden is going to be speaking and joining us

is our news director. Terry Bell. Good morning, Terry. How's it going?

Hi, Jay. Sorry about all the confusion. Technology is glorious.

Who is what it is? It's always challenging, right? It is always a challenge.

It sure is. So what time is President Biden expected, Terry?

Well, President Biden is actually in Wisconsin. Air Force One landed about a quarter to 11.

Now I imagine he is meeting with supporters and other VIPs, getting a tour of this facility.

This is Wisconsin Black Chamber of Commerce. Among other things, services and incubator for small

businesses, we've heard a lot about Bidenomics and his plan to grow the economy by growing the

middle class out, as opposed to the upper class down. But particular, we're going to hear about

small businesses today and what's been happening for them in the last three years. And particularly

with Black owned small businesses. And how important that is in a city like Milwaukee,

which has seen a lot of changes over the past generation. So I'm here with Earl Ingram of the

Earl Ingram show. And Earl has a lot of insights on that that I think are valuable to all of us.

Absolutely. We're at a pass pass me along to Earl there and we'll get to get our colleague Earl Ingram on.

All right. How you doing, Jay? Guys, you don't need your phone. Your headsets will do great.

Okay, so still got issues. Okay.

Yes, we can hear you, Earl. So there is some concern because

there is some concern because it does seem like support for president. Hello, Jane.

Can you hear me? Yes, Earl. I can hear you. No. Okay. All right. I can eat. Jane. Yes.

We'll just keep sold sold during on. Earl, we were talking a little bit before the we went on the

air just about why this is so particularly important in Milwaukee. A place where there was once

as in much of America, a thriving black middle class. They were good manufacturing jobs and there

were plentiful and people had a high standard of living. And in Milwaukee and in Wisconsin,

that has changed quite a bit. We're talking about that stuff. So I have a PhD in black Milwaukee

since I've lived here my entire life, soon to be 70 years. When I was a young man, Milwaukee had

the highest standard of living blacks anywhere in the country. It's hard to believe as that is.

We had the highest standard of living in the city for people of color because at 18 years old,

you could do what I did walk right out of high school and walk into industry and work on a job

for 34 years that allowed us to live the American dream, to buy a home, to send your kids to college,

to buy new cars, to save some money, to travel, to go to Disneyland, all of the things that

Georgia America could do. We were able to do that and a lot of that had to do with civil rights

struggle and all of those things. But more than anything else it had to do with the fact that

Milwaukee was the machine shop of the world. Just about any tractor in America was made in Milwaukee,

not only tractors, sewing machines, washers and dryers, automobile frames, televisions,

you name it, we produced it. And so it wasn't just Milwaukee at that time, it was America. America

was the one nation that was not invaded. And so after World War II, many of the other nations,

their infrastructure was destroyed. And so America was king in manufacturing. And so that meant in

cities like Milwaukee and other places, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Kansas City,

manufacturing was king because we produced things for the entire world. So a city like Milwaukee and

which with us at that time when I was a young boy, probably about 20% of it was black.

But because of what transpired in World War II and other things, there were so many jobs

that were available and all of them were forced to pay a going rate because of the competition

with hiring people. Exactly, exactly. And that's what what happened after that. So we had this

situation that jobs were good, jobs were plentiful. You could have a prosperous family. What happened

then? Well, something called a couple of different things. Something called global economics.

Something that made it possible for companies to move their jobs out of number one cities.

And then northern cities which had unions down to southern cities that did not have unions.

And they certainly could do that cheaper. And then eventually to move them out of those

southern cities that didn't have unions onto places like Mexico, which was even cheaper than what

was taking place in the southern states. And then even cheaper yet by moving them to China and

moving other places. So people would say that it happened because unions and what we were making,

the companies could no longer afford to do that. But that would be an inaccurate statement.

There are still jobs here to do in the United States. And Biden, if you will, is helping make that

happen. We're going to hear quite a bit today about the owner of a cup called Hero Plumbing,

which just got a big contract to enact a lot of the America, the bipartisan infrastructure law,

to replace lead pipes, the dangerous lead pipes that are all over particular in Milwaukee.

And that work is going to be done by a private company, Hero Plumbing.

So let me first begin to say that what is transpired with lead pipes in our community is absolutely

sinful and shameful. So many young people in the city of Milwaukee and other urban as well as

rural areas have been poisoned by lead. All of us know the impact of that. So we're going to take

a short hiatus and when we come back, we'll continue. We'll continue the conversation.

Earl Ingram and Terry.

Jane, no, that

have more. If you want us back, we'd be happy to keep talking.

Earl Ingram and Terry Bell. Thank you so very much from joining us in downtown Milwaukee waiting for

President Biden. He is going to be speaking today at the at a special incubator in downtown

Milwaukee. Again, that was Earl Ingram, Jr. And Terry Bell, our news director joining us.

Stay close. When we return, John Nichols is the associate editor for The Cap Times,

which is a wonderful publication that I highly encourage you to check out. He's got a couple

of columns about why he does not expect to receive a Christmas card from the former president.

Stay close. You're listening to Asgos, Wisconsin. This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

You'll be in the car right away, my boy.

Good morning. Welcome to Asco's Wisconsin. Thank you so much for joining us, Jane Matanere.

We're waiting for John Nichols, the associate editor from the cap times, to be joining us here on the program.

We just heard from Earl Ingram and Terry Bell who are in downtown Milwaukee waiting for President Biden.

He is on the ground here. I'm sure if you're driving around downtown Milwaukee or anywhere leading from downtown to the airport, you've already noticed that.

What's going on?

Oh, yes, it's true. I was driving yesterday and I came up to an exit where there was a bunch of cop cars and ambulance lights.

And I was like, oh, gosh. And the accident stopped just as my exit came on. So the flow of traffic was perfect. Oh, nice.

And I was like, sweet, baby, Jesus in the manger. You're smiling upon me. This Christmas Eve.

Something that that I did want to share that we didn't have an opportunity to talk about. Yeah.

And I think it's important because this is happening right before Christmas. After months and months and months of sitting on these promotions in the military, Tommy Tuberville has finally backed off.

I mean, so this pointless military blockade is officially over the Senate finally confirming the final group of senior military nominations that were held up because of Tuberville's protest over the Pentagon's abortion policy.

So the 11 flag officers have now been approved, joining the rest who were approved a few weeks ago earlier this month, Tuberville agreed to end the blockade against promotions for three star nominees and below the remaining four stars were finally released this week.

This took months. He's been sitting on this for months. I feel so badly for these military members and their families.

Who haven't been able to go on with their, they've been in a holding pattern all this time. I mean, and over.

The abortion policy in the military. Well, you know, they tried to, to, to, to frame it as abortion tourism. That's what they were calling it. That didn't catch on. So they backed away from that.

But yes, because the Pentagon allows female service members to travel if they need abortion care. And that's ostensibly what this whole hold up was over.

Personally, I think he was holding them open and would have continued to hold them open until after the next election, leaving all these things, all of these promotions empty so that if Donald Trump should win, he can appoint his loyalists and essentially have most of the military on his side.

That's just terrifying. I mean, the thing is this too is no one can even primary him on this because he'll go home. You're like, I did this for the babies. Like he gets to campaigns. He, he still has somehow gets to be a winner on this because at the end of the day, even though he gave up. He said, I did what I could. I held on as long as I could for the children for the babies, because I believe in life. And that makes his base. Go Gaga with excitement. But ultimately he got nothing. Yeah.

But he got nothing, but inflicting pain and uncertainty on all of these people who are sacrificing to serve in our military. Well, luckily for him, though, he doesn't care about them. So he didn't have to worry. He doesn't have to suffer anything.

And yeah, I mean, I'm sure he doesn't have to even care about his buddies who are all against abortion laws, but doing some pretty nefarious stuff behind the scenes too that we never see. But you know, hey, what do I know? It's just trying to, I'm just me spilling some tea.

Speaking of spilling tea, George Santos has been busy flapping his mouth since he left Congress. Yeah. And I don't know why anyone would believe anything that comes out of his mouth, but it has been pretty entertaining. Yeah.

I mean, he has gone, he has listed off several people by name, uh, fellow Congress critters who he says are, he says Kevin McCarthy is corrupt.

And, uh, there's insider trading and all of this hanky-panky going on among members of Congress. And I guess that really shouldn't surprise anybody.

I mean, Kevin McCarthy is corrupt next. Oh, there's insider trading. And like, you want to really raise the hackles, name some names, show some proof. Unfortunately, you spent the better part of your time here, lying your face off. So no one, you have no credibility whatsoever. I mean, like, you could have the arc of the covenant and people would be like, you probably bought that at five and below. So I mean, I don't know. It's just like, no one cares.

He's, he's, he's gonna end up on a reality show. Or he'll be a pundit for some style thing or he'll become an influencer online. I mean, he's doing cameos now. Yeah.

And he did that interview with Zway. That's where she actually asked the question, what do we have to do to make you go away? And he answered it perfectly. He said, stop inviting me.

Well, truly, like, what do you think is going to, like, if, if you want him to go away, we have to ignore him. That's how you, you shed, you shed shadow on him. And he will just crawl away. But you keep putting the light on him. He's going to walk towards it. Oh, yeah, you know what?

Do it. Make your money. We're the idiots who are like, I can't believe him and blah, blah, blah. Why would he go away? Because we're talking about him. He'll go away when we stop talking about him. But he'll never stop being relevant because we'll always be curious.

It's it's just it's it's watching a train wreck in action, a beautiful train. Well, he's well, let's say a well styled style.

I was going to say a train wreck in a beautiful sweater that that comedian who you just mentioned. That way, Z way, Z way.

She asked him how many stolen credit cards he had to use to pay for his outfit. Yeah, and he at first denied owning anything from Hermes.

Other than the Cologne, that's all I wear is the Hermes Cologne. Oh no, wait, and the bracelet.

How did you buy that? She asked. He said it was a gift from his husband, Santos, who's 35, also said he's been getting Botox and fillers since he was 25.

That surprised me at all. Not one bit. Not what I'm surprised. Obviously, I'd been surprised you said 15, but 25.

Do you think that's, is that it might just way out of the loop as far as when some people start getting cosmetic treatments?

Well, now they've sold Botox as more of a it's less about you speak Botox.

She's been going in for Botox treatment. Now you see billboards everywhere.

You can run into a place, get a couple of units and you're good to go. It's simple. It's easy.

It's fun. And he's just on the cutting edge. And I didn't know he was married.

Well, that's what he says. And whether or not, we can, we can put that in the big remains to be seen.

She, she went on to ask him about his thoughts on some black LGBTQ leaders, civil rights activists too.

And she, she named off James Baldwin, Marspeed Johnson. And he just, like, Marspeed Johnson, he goes, love her, everything she did.

And she's like, really like everything. You don't know who she is. Next question, like he has no idea.

No, that that's that, I mean, I'm not going to find a lot of books in his house.

Well, and I, what, what I find amazing though is that he was not better vetted before he ever ran.

No one did back, they don't do background checks on candidates.

You would think before a political party would endorse someone, you would at least, I mean,

I had to have a background check in order to get global, global ID. Yeah.

I was interviewed by an FBI agent for having sex.

Well, I mean, I think at the end of the day, you can just, you can run if you want.

If no one else is running, I mean, it wasn't a, it wasn't a huge seat in New York.

And I mean, the thing is, is that the, the New York Republican party was not happy about this.

But there was no one else running. And the guy who was running against him was had gone to various papers

and said, this man is lying. And the papers did nothing.

No, it wasn't in a very small news paper.

Yes, it was a very small newspaper in New York that uncovered all this.

Yeah. And because he went to the bigger papers and they didn't do anything.

And then I watched an interview when they were talking about this, the fact that he had,

that this gentleman had gone to the, the small paper or a gentleman had gone to the news outlets

and said, this is wrong. He is lying. What is going on here?

And at the end of the day, the newspapers all agree like, it wasn't our fault.

We didn't do anything. They never admit to fault when they slip up.

Oh, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And yeah, the, and that was the thing is,

people were saying, why didn't anyone say anything earlier? And this opponent, this

democratic candidate was like, I was, I tried the entire time.

So, and no one would listen to me.

So it'll be really amazing to see who gets this seat now because Ken,

Ken, the Democrats get up enough energy to take this seat or will the GOP just say,

all right, we're going to get, we're going to get a cardboard cut out of one of us.

We're going to put it in that seat and we'll be fine for two years or the rest of that term.

Well, the one thing I think is that someone's guaranteed is that they're going to vet this,

whoever this next candidate is. They're going to vet them within an inch of their life.

Yeah, it makes me wonder what others, I mean, what other states will do. I'm sure they'll do

very little, but, uh, yeah, I'm sure New York now will be even more about like, you want to run

here. Fill out this 27 page application. Absolutely. We need 34 references. We need all of your IDs.

And we'll think about it. I would love to be something to ask Todd all about two and other

colleagues. Todd, all of us show just about how much, how much research goes into, you know,

looking at these candidates and their pasts and their backgrounds and, but as, yeah, as,

as, as you said, too, I think now moving forward, there will be a much, much more vigorous process

when it comes to looking at their past. Yeah. I mean, you know what? I'll run for Congress. Why not?

My name is Gregory Josephson. And I'm running for Congress. What would be your platform?

About six feet tall. Thank you. That would be tall than all of you. All right. That helped a lot.

Apparently, again, we got our signals crossed with John Nichols from the Cap Times,

a couple of articles that he's had on there in the last couple of weeks. Essentially,

Donald Trump and his lawyers were after some discovery regarding Trump's involvement in January

6th. And he fingered this John Nichols from the Cap Times, who's his associate editor, as being

on the edges of the action on January 6th. And he was there encouraging rioters and

encouraging people to move forward. And the only slight problem with that whole claim is that he

was never there. And he has witnesses who can say that he was actually never there.

Another thing too, coming up about the January 6th, new speaker of the House, Mike Johnson announced

what a month ago that he was going to be releasing 40,000 hours of the January 6th footage.

That still has not happened. It's been kind of trickling out here and there. But this massive release

has not occurred up to this point. And the other thing that we never even had an opportunity to

address this when it happened. But when Mike Johnson made that announcement that he was going to be

releasing all this footage, he pointed out that they were going to blur out the faces of some

people because he didn't want the justice department going after them. I find that pretty remarkable.

I mean, come on. So we want to end not that and there were there were some people who from what

I understand were not involved in the violence. But let's not forget there have been over 700 people

convicted for the violence at the Capitol on January 6th. And they're not done yet.

They're still there's still some that they're that they're looking for and trying to locate.

And I don't know if you know this speaker, Johnson. But if they want to see it, they're going to see it.

The other concern I've seen is that there is some footage from the Capitol police themselves.

They use a series of tunnels underneath the Capitol that are not well known to the public.

I've been through those tunnels. You have. I've been I've been on their subway system.

It's pretty cool. But there's some concern that allowing all of this footage out there is going

to make things even less safe going forward because not all of this should necessarily be public

knowledge. All right, stick close. When we return at Christmas trees and your chance to live right

next to Lambo, you're listening to Asgos, Wisconsin. This is the Civic Media Radio Network.

I guess I'm always in the middle round this time hard in me if a tear falls

on my Christmas cheer. It's the memory I've been old Christmas

Oh, you know, I don't know why. I get the feeling.

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wherever you go and wherever your holidays may be leading you. This is probably on somebody's

Christmas list. You haven't opportunity now to buy a house in Green Bay that essentially butts

right up to the Packers Stadium. What's Lambo Field? I heard of it. I heard of it.

A Green Bay home with a view of Lambo up for sale for bedrooms to bathrooms. 2,000 square foot

home listed on Zillow for about okay, it's $6.99. I don't know why they list them at six. It's $700,000.

Wait, say what are the stats again? It's four bedrooms. Four bedrooms. Two bathrooms. Two

thousand square feet. Okay. Listed on Zillow for $699,000. So none of the Packers live there. There's

no gold bars in the building. It does come with a pool and a deck in the back. Okay. Which I think

is would be would be very appealing for some. That seems pricey to me though for Green Bay. Yeah,

I'm sure because it's you're looking at Lambo Field. Also, I mean, here's a thing is

we bought a house next to Lambo Field. Give it one season. We think that'll live next to Lambo Field.

It's so loud. But it's only loud for how many days? I know, but still, I'm annoyed easily.

That would really irritate you. I don't I don't think I don't think I'd want. I think

here's the thing is I would rather a die hard, true, green and gold fan live there and have

the opportunity because I think they would truly enjoy it. I'm not the biggest football fan. So

it would be it would be a little bit lost to probably or maybe it would renew energy. I used to

have four football who knows. All I know is that the moment someone drove up on my lawn before asking

my permission, I would lose my mind. Yeah, probably not the best purchase for you then Greg.

No, probably not a good idea. Moving on, if you're not going to buy the house at Lambo for $700,000

and unfortunately, I have a feeling that some business is going to buy it. Oh, that sucks.

You know, yeah, so they can have Lambo parties and turn it into a party house. Airbnb,

they're going to Airbnb. Oh, I bet you're right. Yeah, I bet you're right. And they'll make their

money back in two seasons. Yeah. Oh, yeah, without a doubt. Also, Christmas trees still an issue.

There are nearly 900 Christmas tree farms in Wisconsin. Over 700,000 Christmas trees are cut

across Wisconsin every year. But there have been some questions now about what are we supposed to do

with them if we have a real tree in the house after this whole city of Milwaukee.

With the Christmas trees is definitely Kaffafel. I've always had Kaffafel. The Wisconsin DNR says

Christmas trees are defined as yard waste state law prevents sending yard waste to solid waste

disposal facilities because when it goes into a landfill, essentially, it breaks down and creates

methane, which we don't want. So what should you do with your Christmas tree? If your

municipality does pick up the trees, make sure you take off all the lights and all the decorations

and any wires and also with those Christmas tree lights, don't put them in the garbage or don't

put them in the recycling. Never put your dead Christmas tree lights in recycling because they

they jam everything up and unfortunately, they have to go into garbage. But the DNR highly recommends

you chip or compost your Christmas tree. Burning is not recommended when other options are available

or get a fake tree like I did and put it in your basement all year round. You can do that. You can do

that as well. Troy from Monhorab is on the line. Good morning, Troy. Thank you for joining

us, goes to Wisconsin. What's up? Hi, Troy. Hey, uh, that picked the house, uh, across

right by the landfill field. Did they have pictures of that yet?

I am, uh, let me take a look. If it's not Zillow, then they've got to have pictures. Yeah,

if it's up on Zillow, they're really pictures. Okay, because they were building one right,

that was right up against the parking lot. I was wondering if that was the one.

It's true. From what I can see, Troy, it does look like it's, yeah, it's, it's facing the front

of Lambo from from as far as I can tell. Right. And uh, with a strip of grass. Okay. But yes,

it could be yours, Troy. For really said, it could be yours for only $700,000.

That would be awesome. Yeah, Troy.

Talk to your wife. Talk to your wife. Ever put a big red bow on it for you.

And that, that, that, that, she's a genius thing in the money we save on parking.

There you go. Exactly, exactly. Thanks a lot, Troy. I have a very, very Christmas.

You too. Merry Christmas to you, Bob. Thank you. And real quickly, PT is calling in from Portland.

Good morning, PT. What's happening?

I heard about the health level. Uh, yeah, is it a modern home?

It's a two story. Yeah, it looks pretty modern. It's not an old.

It certainly doesn't look like it's from the 1940s. It looks like it's like maybe a 70s or 80s.

Jan, I feel like you can get a cut on this real estate right now. Right. I can, I can help facilitate

this deal for PT. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's, uh, to me, I would, that price, I, that's, that's

steep for that area. But a developer might buy, turn down another bar there, really.

Put another bar. Yeah, yeah. I didn't see that happening. Again, I, I would just like to see it go

to a family as opposed to some business that's just going to turn into it into a party house or

something. Yeah. But what are you going to do? That's, that's the fair market. Uh, thank you for

calling, PT. Thank you so much for listening in Portland. How did you find us?

Oh, I moved from Wisconsin to, uh, to Portland. And I've always, you know, listen to, uh, civic

radio. What was it called before? Yeah, I followed you guys for a long time. And I love the new app too.

Wonderful. Thank you, PT. Many, many downtown now that you know, here, because I have your app on

it. It has a little thing that's a stop listening. Don't press that button. Why, why would you do that,

PT? Yeah. No, I wouldn't do that. Thank you, man. Thank you so much, PT. Really appreciate you

for listening and keep Portland weird, right? Heck yeah. Keep Portland weird. All right,

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