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He was a stand up comic.

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We're going to start off with Chuchu, money, baby, state and local officials got $500,000

federal grants to look at expanding Amtrak passenger rail from Milwaukee to Chicago,

Green Bay, Madison, O'Clayer, and the Twin Cities, US Senator Tammy Baldwin.

Brands Day announced the five routes got development grants through the Federal Rail

Administration's corridor ID program.

It's the first step towards being able to tap into $66 billion in rail expansion money

included in the bipartisan infrastructure bill.

So I think this is a great thing, fantastic.

Not everybody is a Chuchu fan.

I love taking Amtrak, especially going down to Chicago.

It makes life so easy.

Yeah, I mean, you get right into the downtown area.

It's an hour and a half from start to finish.

I don't have a problem with this.

I'd be curious as to what kind of studies they've done as to what the ridership might possibly

be going to Milwaukee to Madison.

I think it'll be pretty big.

I would love to not have to make that drive to Madison.

It's just so boring.

Okay, it is.

It's just a bite.

I don't know what I expect.

I think along that route, some sparklers or something.

I don't know.

I know.

It's beautiful.

It is, but it's just kind of man.

It's nothing but farmland.

Great.

I would do it just in the fact that it would kick me out of that Madison vortex because

I get lost in man.

I'm usually pretty good with directions and knowing where I'm going.

But for some reason, and I went to school in Madison, you think I'd have it down, but

I always, I get around that capital area and I'm like, where am I?

What am I doing?

Which way do I turn?

Which way do I turn?

And right now, there's so much construction going on in Madison.

I understand that that is quite a, quite a challenge there for the, for the residents.

Well, when do they think this might be, I mean, we got to get a pass and all that kind

of stuff first.

So we got to get it through while this, they're going to, they're going to commence these

studies.

I guess.

And then take it to the next step, the money is already there.

The money is there.

Right.

But I mean, if they're just getting the studies done now, it's going to be a few years

before this thing.

And implement it.

Oh, absolutely.

Three of the routes would be the new train service out of Milwaukee, again, to Green Bay

Madison.

And I'll clear the other two would expand the Amtrix existing high a office schedule between

Milwaukee and Chicago and the Empire builder between Chicago and the Twin Cities deal

across.

But remember this route does not take you into Madison.

It takes you north of Madison a little bit about 45 minutes north.

It doesn't hit.

There's no terminal.

No, if you look at, if you look at the map, because I saw someone post about this

couple weeks ago, they said, and this could change.

Who knows?

They could change it.

But it said, you know, Madison's grumbling about it, because I mean, they're, their

big thing was high speed high speed rail back in 2010.

We had it ready.

The money was there.

Eight hundred and fifty billion dollars earmarked for Wisconsin to build high speed rail

between our state and Minnesota and Scott Walker as promoted on day two, killed it.

And because of that, we lost out on nearly a trillion dollars in jobs expansion, all this,

but now they're doing this.

It's not going to be a central point because it's going to take you from Chicago to Minneapolis.

It's not just to Madison.

It's going to be taking you through three states, but then you're negating all those students

that could take that train and get it into the, get it into the city.

I mean, I just think if 45 minutes north of Madison, I think that's dumb.

Well, I wouldn't disagree with you.

I don't disagree with you either, but do they have, I mean, well, that's going to need

enough, a new terminal.

Yeah, exactly.

And other things, but I would imagine as they are studying this, they will take that

and you would think they would take that into consideration because if you go to Green

Bay and O'Clayer, that's, I mean, that's a boon for a lot of parents with their kids.

Oh, you put them on the train and you don't, because my brother, he has three girls.

And they all, they bleed red and white that family, my brother's family.

And I, I can't tell you how many times he drove to Madison back and forth and forth

and back and forth.

And it would just be so easy, you know, Lord, you know, Juliet, Cossette and Georgia,

put them on the train with their suitcase and off you go.

Well, for me, I'm looking forward to it when it happens to go to Minnesota because I don't

like driving to Minneapolis.

It's, it's not a great drive.

It's boring and I'd rather just take a train.

It'll, it'll probably add a couple of hours on to the, to the, to the ride because this

is in the high speed.

Is it?

I don't believe so.

Yeah.

You know, you're going to stop and you're going to stop and so yeah, it's going to add

a little time as opposed to driving, but just think about all the people who, especially

young people, Calvin, I would think younger folks would be excited about the opportunity

to not have to own a car resident young people, resident young people.

Yeah.

Well, and in addition, and I'm going to admit this to you and you're going to, because

we're going to be going into a topic coming up very soon about the liquor industry, but

the one thing I loved about Amtrak was when we were taking a girl's weekend, oh yeah,

we who sit on the train and drink wine.

And then we'd get off the train and we'd grab a cab and we'd go to our hotel and whoo,

whoo.

It was trouble free, you know, I mean, is that awful?

It's not, it's, it's, that's part of the reality of it.

And I think just the traffic to Green Bay for games, yeah, wouldn't that be a wonderful

thing to not have all those people on 41?

But does that train go to Green Bay?

Well, they're talking about expanding.

Okay.

Yeah.

Because if I'm not mistaken, the map I saw, if I'm not mistaken, goes up through Milwaukee

through heading west up to Minneapolis essentially, because the whole thing is Chicago

and Minneapolis.

But yeah, I mean, we should, honestly, the fact that we don't have any, we don't have

real dedicated train lines and great transit in this state is upsetting.

It's, it's, it's sad.

And when people complain about things like the hop, which is, they don't even get me

started on that.

I, I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

Why?

Why?

It doesn't go anywhere.

Well, because it's, it's going to be though.

That was the thing.

That was the problem as I spoke to a supervisor about this when they first unveiled it.

And they didn't tell people the plan.

The plan was to, this is pre-COVID.

Their plan was to expand it all over the city within five to six years.

So you would be able to, instead, they're like, here's this hoppin, people were saying,

what you're saying?

It takes you to like two places.

But now they're starting to expand the lines and people will be able to use it as a method

of transportation within the city with more accessibility and more choice.

I don't even think that they're going to get any ridership to tell you the truth.

Well, okay.

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Price from Texas is joining us.

Good morning, Price. How are you doing?

Well, fine. How are you?

Wonderful. Thank you.

What do you, what do you think about expanding train service in Wisconsin?

Absolutely.

Love it.

Absolutely.

Love it.

I was actually in Chicago when Walker killed the high speed rail and sent

all of our awesomely paid-for trains to Nigeria and I used to take the high walker

from Milwaukee to Chicago and vice versa all the time.

It was so easy, so fast, close to both downtown.

It was just one of the easiest rides, calm.

You sit in the quiet car, you read a book, you look up, hope you're in Chicago.

And this whole thing for, and just to read, to hear for Texas, it is absolutely ridiculous

that the only choices we have to get down to Austin or San Antonio or Houston is either

driving or having a hop on an airplane.

And there's, I've driven it from Dallas down to Houston and San Antonio and Austin.

There's nothing there.

Right.

People have complained about, and it's the same thing with Wisconsin, you know, there's

big stretches of paralleling the highways where there's, there's nothing there.

You could lay track easily and just, and take, and take those cars off the road.

Same thing.

Well, Green Bay, I mean, I'm not sure other than game days, how, you know, how efficient

it would be.

But my, my mom told me that there used to be a train going from the UP to Chicago twice

a week.

Wow.

The passenger train.

And they got rid of that.

And just when, when the cars came, they said, now we're not going to do this anymore.

So I am all for it.

More trains, train, train mean transit, transit means jobs, and Walker killed that.

Anything next to one of those train stations would have been a hub would have been a, uh,

retail, residential magnet.

And that's all I got to say.

But you guys have a great weekend.

I'll keep listening.

Thanks a lot, Price.

Have a great day.

You see your attorney, Texas attorney general Glen or Ken Paxton tell me he's a terrible

human being.

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We are talking about the news that we're gonna be looking

at expanding rail in Wisconsin,

which I think is a wonderful thing.

The five routes that they're looking at

out of Milwaukee to Madison,

they say there are more than 800,000 people

along the I-41 court, or between Fondelac and Green Bay,

and 160,000-plus residents in O'Clayer.

They're estimating the expansion

to Walker Shaw County, Madison, and Green Bay

could attract 250,000 new riders within a decade,

and by 2050, maybe 1.5 million.

I do love the idea that the caller brought up

about getting half these cars off the road, you know?

I mean, it not only is the congestion there,

but then, you know, you negate all that,

like all the emissions problems,

and, you know, I know that they want us to go all electric,

but I gotta be honest with you,

I can't see me making that leap.

No.

No.

So I just think that if you can get on a train

and let somebody else do the driving,

why would you say no?

It's not that expensive.

What is it to get down to Chicago?

22, 25 bucks?

Yeah.

One way.

Right.

That's a steal.

You spend more in parking to park in Chicago.

Exactly.

And then you do on a train ticket.

They're gonna have to have a healthy budget on marketing

because with a state that's not used to having

that kind of transportation,

you gotta get people used to it, tell them it's okay.

It's good.

It's fun.

Try it.

And you gotta take those leaps

because we're just not a, we're not a mass transit state.

No, we're not, I mean, we're not a mass transit country.

Yeah, true.

Very true.

Right.

We really aren't.

But again, Calvin, for you and your friends

are our resident young people.

Tell us about the resident young people.

Do you think your friends would welcome the opportunity

to jump on a train instead of buying a car?

Well, I kind of might not be the best for this perspective

because I do live in a handy train.

I'm not anti-trained.

I think it would be a great idea.

And I think people would love it.

But I come from a rural area of the state

that the train would still probably be a 25-minute-half-hour drive

for me.

Just to get to the train.

Just to get to the train.

Yeah.

And then I personally wouldn't use it.

But I can tell you that if you're in Madison,

you want to go to Milwaukee,

that drive would be a lot better.

It's not a fun drive if you want to go party or have fun.

Like that.

So.

Well, yeah.

And again, I think for, for younger people now,

the cars are so expensive.

Oh, my first car was cost me $8,000.

And I thought that was a lot of money.

Mine was three.

It was a lot of money.

$8,000 is a lot of money.

It was a lot of money.

And now you can't get any,

can you get a new car for under 25 grand?

I think you can.

But I mean, doesn't it get you?

Does it have wheels?

It's got to be small and everything.

But like, I mean, I'm looking at getting a new car

in either later next year or 2025.

And I'm already starting to save my money.

And I'm, my budget's not large.

I mean, and you know, you think at this point,

I should be able to buy myself a, you know,

a 30,000 or 35,000.

No, I can't.

I can't.

It's just.

Let's just choke it a couple of years ago.

Liz bought a car a couple of years ago.

And it was an equinox.

And it had 40 grand, 40,000 miles on it.

And it was 18,000.

Oh, my God.

Which is, that's pretty reasonable.

I don't see.

I don't know.

I bought my car in 2010 with 18,000 miles on it

for after everything was 18,000 dollars

with the loan and everything.

But yeah, I mean, I don't know.

I feel like if I can get a car between 25 and 30 grand,

I'll be happy because I know,

because I keep my cars for a long time.

Yeah, yeah.

So that's just, I know I'm not the type of person

who gives three, four years.

And you know, with you, I have this issue,

because you're tall.

I'm very tall.

You need, you need something that gives you

a little inside room.

Absolutely.

You know, I can't go into like a little teeny tiny

in our, in our little fiat 500,

you would be, you would be crushed up like a shit.

That's why I love my Honda inside,

Honda inside.

It's small, but tall.

844-967-2789 Pro Chuchu or No Choo.

No Choo.

West from Middleton.

Every time I drive from Madison to Milwaukee,

I curse Scott Walker under my breath.

When we go to Chicago, we drive to Milwaukee

and take the Amtrak down.

Other states like us around us like Illinois

and Michigan have comprehensive statewide train service.

It's time we join the 21st century

so we don't get left behind.

Yeah.

I mean, you got two options.

And if for traveling in Chicago,

you can take the Metro,

which is a station right in Kenosha.

Right.

And then you can go, or you can take,

you can take the Amtrak.

And the Amtrak is a little faster

because Metro is more commuter.

It has stops.

Yeah.

Both are incredibly affordable.

And, you know, yeah.

Like you were saying,

if you go to Chicago for a night,

you're going to spend more in parking

than you wouldn't Ubers.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

The parking in Chicago was really expensive.

Yeah.

Sexers from the 262,

listening here on WAUK.

I am definitely Pro Choo.

I love taking the hot water to Chicago.

I went to UW, Madison,

but I can't remember how to navigate those two-way roads

that turn into one-way roads.

All roads lead to the Capitol.

I would love to take the train into Madison.

I would go much more often.

And a note for you, Calvin,

that is a song,

the bumper music that you played.

You definitely need to turn up

when you're playing Classic Easy.

Just a little side.

Aussie.

Aussie.

Aussie.

Yes.

We used to do it.

Like now,

at this time of year,

when we would go and do like our shopping weekends

or something like that,

because really,

yeah, it's just,

and so you grab your bags,

and you sit down,

and boom, you're there.

Yeah.

It really is a great way to travel.

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Yes, a train connecting everything

is so needed,

yes, peace of mind,

and less drunk driving.

Well, yeah.

And I always pick up the stop

down by the airport,

because it's so easy to park.

I mean, there's always plenty of room.

No, I see.

I'm giving away my secret.

I don't want to see any of you

there at the airport.

I mean, the stirred event stations

really nice too.

The only thing I don't like about the

stirred event station is you got to

go up an elevator over

because you have to cross.

You have to cross.

You have to cross.

But that's nothing.

That is nothing.

But the stirred event is a good stop.

We are just a bunch.

I was like,

you know, it's got a great train stop,

stirred event, you know.

But yeah, I mean,

where's your favorite train?

The little bit of,

the little bit of mass transit we have,

it's enjoyable,

and I'm glad we have it,

and it'll be nice to have some more.

Again, this is not something that's

going to happen tomorrow.

No, no, no.

This is going to take quite some time.

Yeah.

And depending upon what administration

isn't powered,

that's going to affect whether

or not, whether or not this moves

forward.

So that's,

that's something to keep in mind as

well.

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Here's what I know.

When they were coming down to Milwaukee to work

and I was going through the downtown,

and when I was 20,

I got a job at the Journal of Sentinel Newsroom,

and I lived on the east side on Downer and Park,

and I took the bus every day because it saved me so much more money

as a student trying to learn, you know, the news business

at the paper.

I once saw a documentary that said,

you know, those things were so popular in every city.

And then about the 1930s and 40s,

there were companies that were buying up all the rail systems

or buying them off of cities and say, well, run them,

and they ran them into the ground.

And eventually around 1950,

there were congressional hearings.

They found out that the people buying them

were actually standard oil and firestone tires.

They were trying to put the trolleys out of business

so they could sell more cars.

There's a big shocker, Mike.

Well, I mean, I was a jaw dropping.

One of my teachers at UWM was Frank Zydler,

the mayor of Milwaukee in the 1950s,

who brought you I-94 from downtown Milwaukee to walk a show,

an interstate under the Eisenhower's administration,

who helped build County Stadium

and drew the Boston Braves to Milwaukee,

who won a World Series in 1957.

But Frank, as the mayor, kept on his home

at about North and 50 because I became friends with him.

You know, he's the guy that they named it Frank Zydler Park

and you'll be out of India.

Oh, he's very, very famous in Milwaukee.

He's worshiped there.

So I'm wondering, Mike, are you pro-Chuchu or you anti-Chu?

Well, you'll find out in just a second.

Okay, there is a time limit, you know.

Right, for the rest of his life,

he took the bus downtown or wherever you want

to promote public transportation.

Now, years later,

I have gone to 18 Super Bowls.

Do you know what's in every Super Bowl city?

A train.

A train.

Yeah.

Even when you're in Phoenix,

spread out Phoenix with all those beautiful interstates.

And really not too bad a traffic,

but millions of people,

I'm standing downtown Phoenix by where the Diamondbacks play

and where the convention center was for the NFL Super Bowl.

And here comes a train.

A trolley.

Same thing in Minneapolis.

They've got a wonderful metro system

that takes you in and out of the downtown.

And one time when Mark Murphy,

the president of the Packers,

was in Racine County to donate about a $4 million

for a new high school football field.

The Hayawatha,

the M-tracker runs from Milwaukee to Chicago,

stopped by at the very nice Sturterman station.

And he said,

well, look at that.

And I said, yeah,

it's a great thing for me to hop on

from ball pleasant down to Chicago.

He says,

I would love to get one of those

from the Milwaukee Green Bay.

So it sounds like Mike.

Mike, it sounds like you're on board with trains then.

Yeah, it did.

Mark Murphy has said,

I would love to have a train from Green Bay to Milwaukee

because he worries about safety after fans have been partied

at a Packers game.

Absolutely.

It's ridiculous that we don't have the public transportation

that we used to have back when Frank Zidler was a mayor.

Agreed.

Yeah, absolutely.

Thank you so much, Michael.

Be careful on the road,

because I know you are always,

always on the road.

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Tom from West Dallas.

Good morning, Tom.

What do you think about

looking at expanding rail in Wisconsin?

I have 100% for it.

I have taken the train to Chicago many times.

I've taken it to Manhattan a bunch of times.

It is so easy.

I've driven out there too,

and man, I would rather much take the train.

But I want to just add to this,

to the hop street car here in Milwaukee.

Over the summer,

there were a couple of times I had to go down to the third ward.

One was during Mexican fiesta,

where it was called.

And it was a stupid,

stupid amounts of traffic.

I parked over by a cathedral square park,

and I took the hop.

Right downtown, right through a mist,

all that.

I walked a few blocks,

and there I was.

And when I left,

I just walked back,

and got in my car,

parked for free,

and it was great.

We really need to expand the hop as well,

go past the Pfizer,

and all around our heaviest areas,

because it would really expand,

and to the traffic,

for the train and everything,

if Chicago people could come up

and they could make it go past the stadium,

like I heard one proposal,

we could,

you know, we,

we would have a boom here with that.

Yeah, and that's what they plan on actually doing.

They're going to be expanding that hop over the next few years.

Like I said in the earlier,

the powers that be did not do a good job

of getting that point across the people

when it first was proposed past and implemented.

The Republicans all hate it.

Oh, yeah.

That's another big problem.

I do understand why they are so anti-

anything to build,

to build up this city,

to build up this state,

because no, we've got to cook a boss.

They're right to train.

I remember belling back when they were going to do walkie-matis

and he was saying that for the cost

if it's going to pay to do that,

we could buy almost everybody a brand new Jaguar.

Oh, jeez.

That's not how math work.

That's really funny, Tom.

And I think the other thing we have to keep in mind as well

is there,

like my clements pointed out,

automakers don't want us riding trains.

And neither do they road builders

and the lobbying groups for all these construction companies

and Wisconsin,

they don't want us riding trains either.

And the politicians who are in the pockets of those groups.

And those groups.

Exactly.

They don't want us riding on trains either.

But, yeah.

I, yeah.

I don't know that.

I mean,

No, it's true.

It's, I've been,

it's very true.

Because I've been in meetings.

I've gotten the notes.

The lobbies,

they,

the biggest fear is that people aren't going to be driving

on those roads.

Those roads,

they spend building,

keeping the cars.

To expand the roads.

It's, yeah, it's,

it's terrible because like,

people are going to still buy cars.

You're going to still buy a car.

I'm still going to buy a car.

I'll probably still buy a car.

Calvin,

even though he's a resident young person,

he'll buy a car.

So, yeah.

I mean, it's just,

it's just sucks that that's part of our culture, though.

You know,

that's great in us.

I mean,

that's why when you go over to Europe

and everybody's walking,

they don't need a car.

But that's,

that's, uh, that's who we are.

Absolutely.

But I think,

but again, I think for younger generations

as, as this stuff becomes available,

it's going to become more part of the norm.

Yeah.

We don't have that many options right now.

So, so you got, you have to buy a car.

Right.

Right.

And for, there are,

there are people who cannot afford cars.

Correct.

Correct.

Well, no,

there are no doubt about that.

I mean, you know,

we got to do something about that too.

We got to get those prices down.

I know it's not probably going to happen.

But yet,

you know, we have to start,

you know, pulling the plug on some of this stuff.

Um,

it will be interesting.

Again, this is going to be a very long process.

And if we do not have an administration in,

in the governor's office that's supportive of this,

then that's probably going to just going to get killed.

What they have to do is they have to start construction.

Once they start construction,

then you're committed.

You're committed.

All right.

We're going to talk real quickly about another thing

that governor Evers signed this week,

a massive overhaul of Wisconsin's alcohol regulations.

Yes.

So, I mean, it's a multi-tiered kind of a thing.

Yes.

Um,

and it's, you know,

some people are expanding of the hours,

especially when the RNC is here,

like wineries,

they want the wineries to be able to stay open as long as the bars.

That's part of it.

Right.

and when the RNC comes,

you know,

maybe expand it to 4am for the night owls.

Um,

then you've got the retail possibilities of instead of breweries,

just selling their own stuff,

they can bring stuff in from another,

another brewery in the state.

Right.

Exactly.

Um, the wedding venue thing,

I, I have not been to a wedding at a barn.

Um, so I'm not exactly sure.

Do you guys,

I don't even know what's the,

what's the regulations right now

with the wedding barn situation when it comes to liquor?

I believe people can bring their own.

They have to bring their own.

They have to bring their own as my understanding.

Well, if the, if it's just a barn,

I mean, if it's, it's a barn operating as an event space,

they can get a liquor license.

I know people who own venues,

and I've been to a wedding at a barn,

and there was

hired

a bar service.

They didn't have,

so I'm guessing that what they had to get was like a,

a one day only

caterers license.

Okay.

Um,

but if you were an event,

if you were an event venue,

that's hard to say event venue.

Uh,

I believe you can,

you at this point still can obtain

a regular liquor license.

Yeah, it says here,

it requires them to get a new type of license

if they plan on serving liquor.

And, and it's very restrictive as well,

because it limits the days the barons can be rented

or leased out.

Right.

It, it's pretty narrow.

I mean,

they have two ways to go.

They can get a liquor license

if you can get this special permit.

Yeah.

But if you get this special permit,

you're only allowed to have one event a month

and six maximum for the year.

It just seems prohibitive

and just arbitrary.

Yeah.

Why,

again,

is there that much competition

among, among wedding venues

that now we have to kill the wedding barns?

I mean, honestly,

the venues are everywhere,

but it's like,

if we're not proposing these kind of restrictions on bars,

why are we imposing them on?

Like,

it just doesn't make sense to me.

Like,

it's such an,

it's such an outlier.

Right.

Right.

It's just such an outlier.

It's like, why,

I would, if I was a wedding burn owner,

why are you picking on me?

Yeah.

Well, my big problem

with this whole thing is the hours.

I mean,

seriously.

I mean,

I don't see any reason

why we need more hours to drink.

We seem to be able to cram.

Listen,

I work St. Paddy's Day

down at,

you know,

it's been many, many years in a row

and between six and eight in the morning.

And when they open those doors

that you'd be amazed how much liquor flowed through people

between six and eight in the morning,

they were just pounding stuff.

So why do we need to add more hours?

I don't want to pick on the wineries

if they want to have

expand until when the bars close.

Right.

That seems fair.

But I, yeah, exactly.

I mean,

to me,

it just seems like they're trying to see the RNC

as a special event like they would,

because

New years.

St. Paddy's Day.

I believe bars are open.

It can be open for 24 hours.

You can get special licenses.

So if it's all the time,

I don't think we need to be a 4 a.m. city.

But if,

if it's for the RNC,

I understand for those three or four days

because they want to make a little more money

because they're going to come in.

They're going to party and they're going to spend a lot of money.

But no, if it's for,

if it's for like,

every day,

I don't think that's necessary.

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