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What's Your Favorite Christmas Song? The Fabulous Farm Babe Is Here! (Hour 2)

As Goes Wisconsin · Tue Dec 5, 2023

Wisconsin. So glad to have you along. Thank you for joining us.

Brickbok with me in studio. Kalman's on the board. You can always call in or text

same number 844-967-2789 or if you're watching on a live stream on Facebook

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844-967-2789. Changing things up just a little bit from the last

hour Dan Schaffer was just here recombobulating.

Want to lighten things up a little bit and offer congratulations to a woman

who released this song 65 years ago and it is now tapped the billboard hot

100 for the first time ever. Congratulations to 78-year-old

Brenda Lee who is rocking around the Christmas tree play it Kalman.

Oh!

Rockin' around Christmas tree at the Christmas party.

Brenda Lee was 13 years old when she recorded this in 1958.

It was a moderate hit. It wasn't a huge hit but it's always been

it's a classic, right? It's one of those classic Christmas songs.

You've heard it everywhere.

Yes, for decades and decades and decades. Brenda Lee tells billboard

I'm happy for everyone here that works so hard to make this happen because in

today's world everything moves so fast and furious but my label has come

to bat for me. So there's actually Brenda Lee also just joined TikTok

and I've filmed a new video to honor the song's anniversary by guest

appearances by Tony Tucker and Trisha Yearwood.

Oh, I love those ladies.

And I believe Brenda Lee now has become the oldest artist to ever have a

one, a number one hit on the billboard top 100.

Couldn't have happened to a better person.

Yeah, and we will embed the video of her.

It's again, she's 78 years old.

Still singing, still performing.

Still performing, it's amazing.

But yes, well done. Congratulations, big shout out to Brenda Lee for

number one on the billboard top 100 started us talking about

favorites classic Christmas songs and favorite newer Christmas songs.

So we would love to know yours.

What's your favorite classic Christmas song?

What's a newer one?

Say the last 20 years.

That would be newer.

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Greg Bach, your favorite classic Christmas song?

The hands down without a doubt.

Oh, holy night.

Like the choir choir.

And I tell you, I will cry every time I hear that song is just gorgeous.

It is absolutely gorgeous.

It is.

And it's so like for a Christmas song, it's just so emotional and beautiful.

And yes, it's the one where I'm like, I need a moment.

And I think it's one of those songs, so many Christmas songs.

You can hear them sung by a choir.

You will get chills.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

I mean, yeah.

I think for me to get really chilled up, there has to be some vocals that can't just be

instrumental version.

But still, it's a gorgeous, gorgeous song.

It's my favorite.

I don't know if it's classical.

I don't even know how old the song is.

Oh, that's pretty.

I think that's pretty old.

It's an old and wild.

Let me check it out.

Because I can remember hearing that in church when I was a kid.

I mean, so that's going back several hundred years.

I was going to make a joke about my age.

No.

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If you would like to share your favorite classic Christmas song, your favorite newer Christmas song.

Give us a jingle or comment on the live's jingle.

Give us a call.

Jingle bells.

Jingle, jingle.

There you go.

Doc from Milwaukee is on the line.

Good morning, Doc.

Thank you so much for joining us on Asgos, Wisconsin.

How you doing?

Good morning.

Yeah.

I'm doing well.

Thank you.

My favorite all time would have to be the Christmas song sung by necking Cole.

So good.

Yeah.

So so good.

It's wonderful.

Yeah.

That's tough.

Yeah.

That's a song.

Silent night, but I don't know if it's very new, but you don't get a lot of airplay on this song, but add this to your list.

Mr. Box, when you hear it, you will hear up silent night sung by the temptations.

Oh boy.

Oh, I bet that's great.

I will add it to the list.

Thank you very much, sir.

Thank you so much for chiming in, Doc.

Really appreciate it.

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Well, you, what's your favorite classic Christmas song?

My favorite classic Christmas song.

It's kind of an odd one.

I like Earthic Hit Santa, baby.

There you go.

Get it, you know.

Calvin, get your wreck that up.

Santa, baby.

Just slip a sable under the tree.

I love this song.

She's so pretty.

She's a birthday kid.

She was birthday kid.

Santa, baby.

I love this song.

And I know Madonna did a remake of it.

That was a pretty big hit.

Yeah.

This one is still better.

Santa, baby.

I'm just saying.

Hey, it's your choice.

This is your choice.

And by the way, there's no wrong answer, right?

Joseph McLear got to us on the live stream, as always.

The greatest Christmas song of all time is easily Bruce Springsteen's Santa Claus is coming

to town.

Even Jesus would agree.

That's quite a state.

It's a state of life.

That's quite a statement, Mr. McLear.

Wow.

Just because you share it, just because you share the same name as a stepdad doesn't mean

you get to make like assumptions.

I found a whole night was actually written and released in 1843.

Yeah.

I had a feeling that it was pretty, that that that goes back quite a ways.

It's an olden.

We're taking your calls and your texts on your favorite old classic Christmas song and

your favorite newer Christmas songs.

Tom from Crafting is on the link.

Good morning, Tom.

Hi, thanks for taking my call.

There's a lot of songs I like.

There's so many that are so good.

There's one that you force probably haven't heard.

I was done by a band leader called Walter Schumann.

And he died young, I guess, in the late 50s, I think.

But he did a song called Christmas in the air.

I like to.

Perry Cuomo.

He has some great songs.

He had an album that was stereo actually in 1959.

Some great, great songs, two of the old stuff.

There's a new one I like to.

It's by Christian band called Mercy Me in a sound salad line.

It's kind of a country version.

That's great song.

Two of you have a chance to listen to it.

Cool.

All right.

We will add that to our library.

Thank you very much.

Thanks a lot, Tom.

Really appreciate it.

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Your favorite classic Christmas song.

Your favorite more contemporary Christmas song.

What's your more?

Calvin, we did.

I'm sorry.

Well, you buddy.

What's on the turntable at the old.

For a resident young person.

I was going to be a scrooge and say I didn't really like Christmas music.

But looking back to some Christmas songs from the 60s, I did find some I like.

All right.

I like silver bells.

Turns out I'm partial to the Andy Williams composition.

Which is great.

Fantastic.

That's a great one.

American treasure.

I also like sleigh ride.

I just played that song when I was in band in middle school.

So I like that version.

But I also like the version by the Ronettes.

Oh, nice.

What did you play in band?

I played the trumpet.

Oh.

Do you still play or is it like I can maybe play a scale?

That's more than I could play.

Hey, we're working on the civic media band.

Oh.

I get triangle.

You get trout.

Great.

And then Calvin's on the trumpet.

All right.

Ronettes.

That's a good one.

Texture from the 541.

Silent night is a mood for me.

I have various memories associated with it.

But generally I prefer Christmas music that's older than Mariah Carey.

All right.

We got a text from the 608 same Bing Crosby's white Christmas.

And that's from the Madison plumber.

Oh, nice.

And speaking of Mariah Carey.

So there's Christmas.

So let's.

So.

Do we have a caller?

We do.

Larry from Waukesha is on the line.

Good morning, Larry.

What's your favorite classic Christmas song in your favorite more contemporary one?

Yeah.

I think this is a bit more contemporary, although I think it is probably 30,

35 years old.

Okay.

Would be a.

I mean, this one just does it for me.

I have to play at multiple times for the year.

And that's a silent night off the manhine steamroller.

Oh,

Christmas album.

No vocals.

It is just an instrumental, but it just.

I don't know.

It clicks for me.

No, no, I get it.

And I bet it's so powerful and right and just so moving.

And it just sends chills through your body.

Because you just, if you can find it and play even a snippet of it.

I mean, it's just, it's wonderful.

Thank you so much, Larry.

Really appreciate the call.

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If you want to check in on this with your favorite classic Christmas song.

I feel like we have to talk.

We can wait till after we can talk about modern Christmas songs.

Yes.

I have one that I like really.

Yeah.

Very, very much.

A texture from the 715 from Steven's point of listening on WFHR.

My favorite Christmas song is Senior Santa Claus by Jim Reeves.

My favorite album.

Christmas with Eddie Arnold.

Eddie Arnold.

If you haven't listed Eddie Arnold, get Eddie Arnold in your life.

He was one of the great just, just, I guess, country vocal like crooners.

He was a crooner type, more of a, he wasn't singing about like hard times in my bear.

He was like singing songs about love and I love you and you're just a good voice.

Eddie Arnold just never even pops in my head when I think about music.

What does he pop into your head?

Do anything like that?

Wasn't Eddie Arnold a guy on green acres?

That was, that was, that was someone will correct me.

Something Arnold.

Excellent.

We've got that.

Arnold Drummond from that TV show.

Sure.

Okay.

If you want to check in with your favorite classic Christmas song, your favorite contemporary

Christmas song, we started talking about this off the year because Brenda Lee at the

age of 78 finally has a number one hit on the Billboard Hot 100 with rocking around

the Christmas tree.

Get it, Brenda.

And it got kind of a second life I want to say it was in the movie Home Alone.

Yep.

That movies, that, that, that, that song's been in tons of movies.

Tons of movies.

Yeah.

I mean, that's, but that's what's been happening past couple of years.

These TV shows and movies are revisiting these songs and they're hitting the charts and

revitalizing careers and introducing them to younger generations, younger generations.

Absolutely.

We're going to keep this going.

Stay with us.

Give us a call.

Shoot us a text.

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It's Christmas time, my dear, and we said no gifts this year.

I got one question if you'd let me.

What did you get me?

Is it a tie?

No.

And of this sweater?

Yeah.

My champion drummers.

So something better.

Uh-huh.

Is it bougie?

Like Gucci?

Man.

Now baby, you're looking at it.

Come on out.

Good morning.

Welcome.

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We're talking about Brenda Lee at the age of 78, racking up a number one hits the Billboard

Hot 100 for rocking around the Christmas tree.

And that got us talking about our favorite classic Christmas songs, our favorite newer Christmas

songs that when the Calvin just bumped in with is brand new and it's actually from Jimmy

Fallon.

Yeah.

And Meghan Trainor and it's called and it's called wrap me up and it's really pretty

cute.

It's fun.

I like that.

It's fun.

Text from 262 John and Wes Ben combination of classic and contemporary would be God.

Rusty Mary gentleman slash we three kings by bear naked ladies.

I love that song and that is one of my that is my favorite contemporary.

That's your favorite.

Okay.

That's my favorite.

And then this one I was actually going to mention when caller brought up manheim steamroller

from the 262 necking necking calls the Christmas song newer and then Christmas canon by

trans Siberian orchestra.

Yeah.

TSO is pretty great too.

That is it.

You go to that show.

You're just goosebumps from the moment they said they're in Wisconsin.

I'm pretty certain they're in Wisconsin TSOs in Wisconsin this month.

Oh, yeah.

I believe so.

If not likely.

Yeah.

But yeah, they're to it.

They love Wisconsin.

Yep.

They really do.

Jim from Appleton also texting in my my favorite classic holiday song is Carol of the

bells.

My favorite newish song is father Christmas by Emerson like in Palmer.

I do not know that song.

Newish dude.

Newish.

Was ever on song written in like 1977 at ELP.

I love Emerson like in Palmer.

But wow, that's going to let's like a probably like a 19-minute song.

Is it really?

Oh, Emerson like in Palmer.

They did too.

They they Progrock.

Prog.

What was it?

Progrock like progressive rock like rush.

Yes.

Really long cuts.

Long cuts.

Very intricate.

Musicianship.

Like you you can't just go into your garage and say let's play that ELP song.

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What's your favorite classic Christmas song?

Your favorite more contemporary Christmas song call and or text or leave a message on the

live stream if you're watching on Facebook, YouTube or Twitter from the 262.

My classic would be the Christmas song from Nat King Cole.

That's a good one.

Contemporary Transybeary and Orchistra Carol of the bells corny, but good.

Paul McCutney.

Wonderful Christmas time.

Love that song.

We have that coming.

No.

We can get it.

But we trust me.

We got plenty of time for Christmas.

We can play another time.

That's true.

920 calls.

It says the album Sox by JD McPherson is my.

Oh, I just advertised.

That's fine.

JD McPherson just released a Christmas album called Sox.

So if you like Christmas music, check out JD McPherson.

I don't know this.

JD McPherson.

That's a very hard name to say.

JD McPherson.

All right.

Another texture that cool medley with Sarah and Barnard lady or the bear naked ladies.

It says Barnard ladies.

Three Kings.

We have the bear naked ladies.

No way.

God rest.

She may be gentle.

But nothing you dismay.

Remember Christ our Saviour was born upon this day.

To save us all from Satan's power when we were gone astray.

All the tidings of comfort.

I love this song.

Nothing like a Christmas song that says so.

Well, it didn't write that.

That was the song.

I'm complaining.

I'm a metalhead.

I love these songs.

It invokes Satan.

I think that is such a cool song.

And it just makes me happy.

Yeah.

We got a live stream comment from Tony Hornung.

How about Ragnor, the flat nose reindeer and novelty.

I don't know.

Ragnor, the flat nose reindeer.

A novelty tune from the 60s.

Otherwise anything from the trans Siberian orchestra.

Yeah.

TSO getting lots of love.

Yeah.

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Texture from the 608s listening on Mad Radio WMDX TV Nick silent night.

Chokes me up.

That's good.

I didn't realize she had a Christmas.

I'm feeling nowadays almost every single artist has one.

But let's go.

Let's do we have a call again?

We're just getting Jimmy K.

All right.

Jimmy K is on the line from Madison.

Good morning, Jimmy.

How you doing?

Good morning.

How are you all?

Excellent.

Thank you.

What's your favorite classic Christmas song?

I don't really have a favorite classic music song.

But it's for the local music fans out there.

And Greg, you said you're a metalhead.

I am.

I would suggest checking out the Madison area Christmas compilation

albums that came out about 10 years ago.

It's a compilation of about 20 local bands from the Madison area.

unk rock.

Christmas.

There's a they do covers of some traditional.

But they also have some originals.

It's not for the children now.

Christmas songs not for kids.

Thank you.

We appreciate that.

Christmas songs with a parental advisory sticker.

Thank you, Jimmy.

I appreciate it.

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What's your your your contemporary favorite?

None of mine are contemporary.

Like like the Meghan Trainor Jimmy Fallon song.

They're all older.

Okay.

I would say if I love.

Paul McCartney.

But we've said that one last Christmas by WAM.

And I would told you I was going to tell you a small story before.

Which is there was a couple that tried to raise money to buy the rights that song.

And they said if they bought the rights, they would never play it again.

Wow.

I was like, that's mean.

Turn it off.

If you don't like it, you don't you don't punish people.

Like just don't be that way.

That's not Christmas spirit.

And by the way, they didn't do it.

They didn't do it.

All right.

Well, Rico.

I see it on the line.

We're going to have you hang on just for a little bit.

We have news coming up.

And then we will continue our conversation about Christmas music.

This all stems from Brenda Lee at the age of 78.

Finally hitting a number one on the Billboard Hot 100 with rocking around the Christmas tree

that was released 65 years ago.

Good work Brenda.

Absolutely.

You can check in with us.

Call text, leave a message on the live stream and stay with us.

You're listening to As Goes Wisconsin across the civic media radio network.

Thank you.

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Westward leading still proceeding guide a slapper.

Big light.

Glory now behold him arise.

King God and sacrifice.

Hallelujah.

Your worship and God.

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Oh star of wonder star of night star of night.

Star of wonder star of royal beauty bright.

Westward leading still proceeding guide a slapper.

Big light.

We're going to rest in Mary Gentleman.

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And before we join Pam Yankee who is here to talk about being a fabulous farm babe.

We're going to finish up on talking about Christmas songs.

Your favorite classic in your favorite newer Christmas songs.

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Rico from Rock County is on the line.

Thank you for your patience.

Rico, what did you want to say?

I think classically speaking one of my favorites has always been the little drummer boy.

I just love that song.

But some that's a little newer and I thought was really creative and funny.

I think come out around 2000 was the take off of a 12D the Christmas.

But it's called the 12 teams of Christmas.

I know those.

You plug one in.

They all go out that song to me was very creative, very funny song.

I loved it the first time I heard it.

Rico, we will take a look for that and see if we can't add it to our library.

Really appreciate it.

And a couple more texts that I wanted to get to before me move on.

My favorite is Joni Mitchell, wish I had a river to skate away on.

Nice.

I am not familiar with that one.

Your rhythmic winter wonderland from the 608 burlives, Holly jelly, Christmas.

And from the 301, the kinks father Christmas.

Are you familiar with that?

No.

I'm not.

That's a new one to me.

All right.

We are going to move along.

I am so happy to have you with us.

Pam Yankee is the fabulous farm babe.

She is a wonderful broadcaster in Wisconsin.

And now officially a member of the civic media family.

Good morning, Pam.

How are you doing?

I am glad to be with you, Jane.

My apologies for not being able to get ahead of the all of the Christmas jingle songs out there.

I was distracted myself.

Hey, you're busy.

You got a lot of things on your plate.

So when could, well, when could people hear you on the civic media network?

When and where?

Sure.

So as I understand it right now, we're on six radio stations as part of the civic media family.

Our five to six show is live each weekday morning.

I believe that we are on in the Fox Valley across some of central Wisconsin.

And Western Wisconsin as well.

So just kind of getting started, you know, technical issues are something to overcome.

But we're really happy that we finally got it all pulled together and many things to you, Jane,

for helping to get the conversation started.

Well, I am just overjoyed to have you as part of the civic media family.

Because I think you bring such a valuable perspective.

Pam, especially for those of us, you know, we're in Walker Shaw.

I live in Milwaukee.

But you talk to people all over the States, especially in our farm community,

and our farming community is so vitally important to the state.

And I think you hear perspectives that some of the rest of us don't always get to hear.

So what are you hearing from from farmers in Wisconsin right now?

Right now they're still wrapping up ended the year books.

So we get purely focused as many business owners can understand on trying to figure out

how we should manage our finances for the end of the calendar year.

Corn and soybean production this year was a little bit better than we initially thought

because of all the drought that we were worried we were going to have to battle.

So we actually ended up with better yields for both corn and soybeans and we ended expected.

So that's a little bit of, that's a nice situation.

Now dairy producers are probably under a little bit more duress, a little bit more stress

because the milk market has not been quite as rosy as it was for a year ago, for example.

But all in all, I think 2023 has been at least above average in a lot of ways,

especially compared to our expectations.

And then as you and I had initially discussed, we're also keeping our eye on policy development.

Now the farm bill, which was something that we were hoping was going to be reauthorized

and ready to go by the end of September, was surprise surprise, not done.

And so to try to make sure that we do not get caught up in the snarl that will be the election of 2024,

they've essentially put in a long term extension to allow us to get past that

and keep fundamentally critical in programs that are implemented by USDA under the farm bill in place.

Namely, women infants and children school lunch programs.

A lot of the things again to your point that people never think about with the farm bill.

The farm bill is really folks 70% of those programs make up 70% of our budget.

Then the rest happens to go to agriculture through different programs, grants, et cetera.

So that's really what we've been looking at is where is the farm bill going to be focused on in 2024?

Yeah, the farm bill, as you said, it encompasses so many different things and so many different programs,

not just for farmers.

No, and that's one thing the farm bill itself, just the name is kind of a misnomer,

but I've had pointed out to me by elected officials in Washington DC.

If we change the name of the farm bill or we remove the women infant children,

all the food support programs, all of the things that are not connected to production agriculture

will never get another farm bill done because nobody understands agriculture in Washington DC anymore

or the need for some of the critical programs.

Some of the things that are in the farm bill that are so very important to farmers everywhere,

crop insurance, look at how radically different our weather is today than when we were kids.

Absolutely.

Crop insurance is a critical risk tool that we absolutely must have.

There are environmental programs out there.

Farmers want to do right by the land, but holy crow is that technology expensive.

So having grant programs that can help them do barnyard runoff buffer strips and so on and so forth is critical export programs.

Our foreign egg service is there creating relationships with worldwide partners that are looking for Wisconsin cheese,

Wisconsin butter, cranberries, ginseng, et cetera.

So like I said, there is a that's an onion, baby.

You start peeling and you better be ready.

Well, as you said, at least they gave you an extension.

So it's not going to it's not going to run out, but we're going to be back in this same place.

Then again, further down the road, Congress does seem to love to kick that can for as long as they can.

But again, for at least for now, these programs are going to stay in place.

If you're just joining us, Pam, Yankee is our guest.

She's the fabulous farm babe and is now part of the civic media family early morning show five to six.

Of course, you grew up in a farm.

You're a farmer.

What time do you get up in the morning?

I'm in the office by two this morning.

I had a this morning.

I had too much brain power going on.

I was in about 10 minutes to two.

So I okay.

No, hold up.

You meant to attend it to am.

Yeah.

What time did you go to bed?

Well, see, that's what people always forget.

Farm baby has a life too.

I got a husband.

I got two shelf dark.

That farm babe does like to have a very social side to her life.

So some nights, some nights, I might be dragging my hiding quarters to bed at about six.

And sometimes it's closer to 10.

And the other thing is part, you know how this goes.

Jane, people invite you to be an MC or a guest speaker or there's a night meeting.

That's really important or I have a terrible.

I have a very, I can't say no.

I can't say no.

I had a veterinarian in my office and all of a sudden it's like, oh my gosh.

I got to go back up.

Yeah.

I produce a show, a six a.m. show.

I get up at four to get here by five.

And man, let me tell you that job has allowed me to say no to everything.

Can't do it.

Sorry.

I got to go to bed at eight.

No, I can't.

Yeah.

No good on you.

I just.

I have.

I just have.

It's all about the people.

If people are in town, you know, guess where the world area expo is one of my best and worst

moments.

It is a reunion in so many different regards because I've been going to that show basically my whole

life.

So it's like a family reunion when you go.

But yeah, don't the show doesn't stop at the end of the show.

And it's.

And I have a terrible proclivity for my farm broadcast buddies that are too cheap to buy

a hotel.

So they flop over at Yankees and that turns into nothing good for the next morning after

dark.

Where are we staying?

We're staying at the fabulous.

We're going to Yankees place.

That's what you sound very much like.

That is very much like that is so funny.

Pam, I want to back up a little bit.

And you had mentioned that things were a little bit better at least as far as soybean production

because we did not experience such a bad drought this year.

But then talking about dairy prices, what needs to happen because you of course can solve

this.

You of course have all the answers to everything.

What needs to happen for our dairy farmers to get a break?

Oh, and I'm sure for any dairy farmers listing, if you have, if you have 150 listing, they've

got 150 different solutions.

That's part of the challenge of the dairy industry.

If you are in the Midwest, you have one set of resolutions that you think would help.

If you're on the West Coast, you have another set of resolutions.

East Coast same thing because we're all producing for a little bit different market.

You know in Wisconsin, it's all about cheese.

It's all about hard goods.

On the West Coast, it's all about powder and way sending it internationally.

On the East Coast, it's a lot about powder yogurt, that type of thing.

So everybody's kind of in their own niche that way.

And pricing of the milk for those products changes based on what it's being used for.

So right now, they are just wrapped up what we call federal milk order hearings in Indiana.

Don't ask me why Indiana.

Don't ask me.

All I know is that that's where they've been.

And boy, although I love my industry kids, if you made me sit through eight weeks of

federal milk order hearings, I might walk away and incredibly inebriated and very bored

person because it's some heavy lifting to go through federal orders and make sense of what

is there and then listen to people eloquently speak on what they believe should happen with

graphs, charts, et cetera.

My tolerance for that is not real good.

So God bless them.

So what they're trying to do is basically come up with some updates for 2024 versus 1934

when we started pricing milk out of Eau Claire, Wisconsin, based on the distance it had

to travel to where the consumers were going to use it.

So it's an antiquated system.

We all recognize that it's what we've got.

It's what we've been dealing with.

But I do like to see that there might be progress coming in some revisions and changes that

will help our dairy industry as a whole sometime hopefully in 2024.

That's the hope.

The best is is always up to kind of the producers that are on our cooperative boards that are

asking good questions about where's the next market?

What are we going to do?

How are we going to serve?

Not only our current clients, but grow that market share and maybe even bond beyond our

borders.

So it's it's always been a struggle to be in the dairy industry my entire life.

I grew up in dairy still obviously connected to dairy.

It's been that way since I was a wee sproat and it doesn't look like it's necessarily

going to get resolved.

That's just I know it, but it's just so disappointing, Pam.

It just always feels like our dairy farmers, dairy farmers are always getting the shaft.

They just can never they can never catch a break.

There's never a break.

What's the phrase they buy retail sell wholesale?

Yeah.

I mean, they're always caught.

Their margins are always there are margins are always shot.

So that's why you're seeing so many young farms that are trying to value added on their

farm where they're deciding, hey, I'm going to try to do my own kind of gelato or I'm

going to do my own kind of A2 cheese or something unique.

The Kelly girls up in Fondelac County that are doing ice cream, you know, everybody's

trying to do just a little bit.

Can you stick around for another break?

I can.

Absolutely fabulous.

She is the fabulous farm babe.

She is Pam Yankee now with her show on a number of civic media stations across Wisconsin.

If you have a question 844 967 2789 Pam, we're going to talk a little bit more about K foes.

What's the situation with that in Wisconsin?

And also what people can look forward to if they listen to your program across the civic

media network.

So stay with us.

We'll be right back.

This evening at two as goes Wisconsin on the civic media radio network.

Yeah, we got snow, but they got no sleigh.

So load up the good morning.

Welcome to as goes Wisconsin.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Jane Matt near in for Kristen.

Brian Greg Bach with me in studio.

Calvin's on the board and the fabulous farm babe herself and a new member of the civic

media family.

Pam Yankee is with us.

I just want to remind everybody real quickly.

Tomorrow is Wednesday, every Wednesday, 10 30 Kristen new mama joins us new mama joins

us from 10 30 to 11 o'clock.

So make sure you tune in tomorrow.

Kristen will be here starting at 10 30 right now, though, Pam Yankee.

Let's talk a little about K foes in the few minutes that we have left.

These are the concentrated animal feeding organizations.

We've had a number of guests on over the last couple of months talking about these.

And you have said you just said in the previous segment, Wisconsin farmers want to do the

right thing.

Oh, yeah.

Right.

And this is an issue for them.

And I can't imagine as it's an inexpensive issue to try and solve.

No, no, and that's exactly right, Jane.

And that's something that I work really hard to try to help non farm consumers piece together

what's happening on the farm.

I've been on your program before and one of the first things that irritates me is when

people start using acronyms or the acronyms they use tell me exactly how they feel factory

farm.

You're telling me how you feel.

Your observation is from the road.

You see a big building.

You start making decisions, you know, rendering a verdict and you don't know anything about

that farm.

Today, you have to understand that as farms get big, some of the reason they're getting

bigger is because it's mom and dad, it's son and daughter-in-law, it's probably brother,

maybe their kids, it's multi-generation farm families that are working together to make

sure that everybody has enough money for health insurance so that their kids can go on vacation

and have a afforded sports so that they can have a life like you want.

They have to be able to make more money as a unit plus there's labor, nobody's labor

expenses are going down.

When you see that large farm and you start mentally judging them, I want you to tap the

brakes literally and think about it for a minute because again, as we've pointed out time

and time again, more than 90% of all the farms in Wisconsin are family farms.

It's just more family members that are involved today.

The KFO situation is one of those that always seems to draw immediate attention in a community

because they're reviewing the permit, etc.

The permit process has gotten just downright awful in Wisconsin and it's nobody's fault

really.

The regulations are complicated and very specific.

We have very few staff, for example, on the regulatory bodies, DNR, DATCAP, the regulatory

side.

We've got land conservation staff that are working as hard as they can to try to come

up with resolutions come up with the right plans.

What other people may not stop and think about is, as you pointed out, this technology

is incredibly expensive.

Large farms may have a chance at affording the proper technology if they get the grant

monies we talked about under the Farm Bill or the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture

makes grant monies available as well.

Then somebody decides that they're going to get in a fight with them.

Now I've got litigation that I have to try to either pay for and keep my ground or collapse

my project after all that investment.

There goes another family farm.

I see this happening all across the state and the time delay.

Time is money and everybody's business, dairy farms are the same thing, dairy livestock,

whatever it may be.

Another thing that, again, people don't realize is, you want a small family farm.

You want something you remember from when you were a kid that really no longer exists.

Red barn, white picket fence, monpah, and bibs, and chickens in the yard.

I appreciate your goal, it ain't going to happen.

The farms that remain financially are not able to do what they want to do when it comes

to waste management, even if they're not regulated.

So again, these grant monies, both on the federal and state and regional scene, are critical.

Like I said, I know dairy farms today that have a better sewer system than the city of

Milwaukee.

How many times have you heard about the city of Milwaukee basically opening the drain

and letting her go on Lake Michigan?

If a dairy farm did that, they would face fines so incredible that would put them out

of business and more importantly, the angst of their neighbors and the state.

So a lot of farms have built city grade systems to handle the waste.

They're doing it because they want to get ahead of finger pointing or problems.

And again, like I said, let's just take a look at some of our urban city centers and

how they manage runoff.

It's the same kind of runoff folks.

It's just that again, the dairy farmer individually gets the attention.

Meanwhile, it's an all whoops or we had no other choice or, uh-huh, well, okay, play

by the rules.

Really appreciate your perspective on that, Pam.

It's important and that's why I think you're such a valuable resource for civic media.

I really do.

So we only got a couple of minutes left.

What can people expect when they tune into your show?

More of the same.

Honestly, my staff and I all we do is work to make sure that people are not connected

with agriculture understand.

I don't want to ever condescent to my farming audience.

They are my heart.

They are my number one priority.

But there's a whole lot of room in the middle where we can come together on different conversations,

different things and stories that everybody loves.

What don't you know about your Wisconsin Christmas tree or cranberries or ginseng?

That's what we're going to be talking about as opposed to the cutting edge conversation

right here with you.

Yes.

We're cutting edge conversation about your favorite classic Christmas song and we're

skating right in the edge there.

Very important.

Jane.

Very, very constant.

I have some fun.

Got to have some fun.

Why are we doing this kids?

Absolutely.

Well, you can catch Pam Yankee, the fabulous farm babe on a number of civic media radio stations

early shift.

She's on from five to six a.m.

And when are you now?

I want to come party at Pam's house because obviously this is the place where everyone

stays overnight.

I'll be your driver.

I can't.

All right.

Sounds good.

Pick a date.

Pam will be there.

I'm out.

I'm looking at my calendar now.

Am Yankee.

Thank you so very much for joining us.

I would love to wish you a very, very, very Christmas and we will be in touch, my friend.

Same here.

Pleasure as always, Jane.

And thank you so much for the help with the civic media group.

You bet.

All right.

Stay close.

When we come back tomorrow at 10 a.m.

Kristen will be here at 10 30 coming up next on the civic media radio network.

We have the news followed by the wonderful Todd Alba program.

That is followed by Matt Flynn direct and then of course devil's advocates from four

to six.

Thank you.

Pam.

Thank you Greg.

Thank you Calvin.

Thank you, Dan Schaper.

And thank you to all of you for calling for texting for leaving messages on the live stream

without you.

We're nothing.

Mm hmm.

Have a great day.

Stay.

Stay here.

It's the civic media radio network.

Thank you Lord, the help that we are to have Christmas time out on the farm.

It's Christmas time out on the farm.

May Christmas everybody.