Is Foxconn Off The Hook? Do You Have Tipping Fatigue?? (Hour 2)

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Kathleen Gallagher was a business reporter at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and the Milwaukee

Sentinel for 23 years.

One of two reporters on the team that won a 2011 Pulitzer for the series won an a billion

and she is now executive director of the Five Lakes Institute, working to grow the Great

Lakes region's high tech entrepreneurial economy and culture.

Kathleen Gallagher, thank you so very much for joining us this morning.

How are you?

Good, how about you?

You're great, thank you.

I saw your article in the journal Sentinel, this was just a couple of weeks ago in the

business section.

Kathleen Gallagher, local officials are poised to let Foxconn off the hook.

Here's why politics and development deals rarely succeed and ultimately Foxconn is off

the hook now, right?

Yep, the Mount Pleasant Committee of the whole voted to let them get out of their contract

and the Racine County Board of Supervisors seconded that.

So they just get this, Foxconn just skates away now completely.

Well, to be fair, Foxconn in the original contract had a right of first refusal on the land.

So if they went to sell the land, Foxconn could say no, we want to buy it or no, you can't

sell it.

So Foxconn agreed to give that up in exchange for getting out of all its commitments.

So Microsoft is buying this land.

Yes, and so they needed Foxconn to say, yeah, we'll let Microsoft buy it.

So in exchange for that, they let Foxconn out of the contract just to clarify, the contract

was that they would build the big screen factory that they would invest $10 billion in that

they would create 13,000 jobs.

Which and we're nowhere close to 13,000 jobs at that facility.

Right.

And I would argue we were nowhere close on the day the whole thing started.

It was never going to happen.

I think most people would agree in retrospect.

Well, there were so many questions from the very beginning just about this company itself.

And I can remember with great clarity, doing a little reading on Foxconn is this was

being kicked around and their reputation within the business community.

And there were reports that at some of their factories overseas, Foxconn actually had to

put nets on the tops of their buildings to prevent employees from jumping off to commit

suicide.

Yeah, I'm not sure that would have happened here, but right, but this is, that seems like

a bad practice to me for any kind of company.

I mean, yeah, from the business side of it too, from just what we were talking about

before, and on the business side, they have a huge reputation of coming into town, making

a big deal, saying here we are people like, oh, and then they're gone, they're done.

They get what they need from us and they leave.

And we're stuck holding the bill and wasn't that pretty much the case here, Kathleen?

If I remember correctly, just a couple of months or maybe a year before this deal in Mount

Pleasant was suggested they had, they had promised the same thing in Ohio or maybe it was

Pennsylvania and did the same thing, made all these promises, asked for all of these

concessions, and then they just went away.

Yeah, there's a Harvard professor who has done a lot of research and says that Asians

look at contracts differently than Americans.

They look at a contract as a first step in the negotiation rather than a binding agreement.

That's interesting.

I also think, Kathleen, in the early days of Foxconn, there was so much floating around

on how this was in essence, just a campaign stunt for then governor Walker and then President

Trump, because if you'll remember, they all had their golden shovels at the right,

and it's going to be the seventh wonder of the world, bring your kids, bring your kids

and celebrate, and none of that has happened.

Were you surprised at all by the actions of the Mount Pleasant officials in all of this?

No, there was an election, excuse me, there was an election last spring where a woman named

Kelly Gallagher challenged the existing Dave DeGroote, who's the village manager now,

and that was the election to determine whether people were going to put up with this or

not, and Kelly lost, and the status quo stayed.

And there are a lot of politicians who were very vested in having it work out this way,

and having it look okay that they didn't lose, right?

Right, right.

Kathleen Gallagher is our guest, a longtime business reporter for the Milwaukee Journal

Sentinel.

She now is the executive director of Five Lakes Institute, a new nonprofit working to expand

the Great Lakes areas, high tech, entrepreneurial, economy, in your article, Kathleen, from

a couple of weeks ago.

So Microsoft is coming in now, and your article mentions water, and how crucially important

this water deal is to this deal.

Can you explain that?

The data centers that Microsoft is planning to put there, they're basically server farms.

It's a lot of essentially computer servers, and they get hot, and so you need to cool

them.

I believe Microsoft has said it will contain the water, that it won't keep reusing new

water, but it will be, Microsoft has going on six data centers in West Des Moines, Iowa,

and it's become an issue there, how the water is being used.

I mean, there have been articles about it, so we'll see how that plays out.

I think the bigger thing, though, is, you know, we went from 13,000 jobs promised to,

in West Des Moines, Microsoft is operating three data centers, and they have a total of

300 employees, so they've said they might have, I think, the estimate is 200 some here,

but it's not going to be a lot of employees.

It's going to be a, the land is getting used, they'll be a good taxpayer, they're a good

corporate citizen, but it's not going to be the jobs by any stretch.

That's almost promising.

And Kathleen, do we have any idea of salary ranges for, for these data server employees?

That doesn't sound like a $75,000 your job to me.

I don't know what that is.

They're a highly skilled job too.

I, I think a lot of the jobs are security and maintenance and some I teach jobs, so,

you know, I don't, I, I think the average fax kind of was promising was 56, maybe.

Yeah.

If it can be close to, yeah, well, well, it will be interesting to see.

And as you said, it doesn't seem like Mount Pleasant residents have, have an issue with

us.

I have a friend, I have a friend who lives down there, and I guess he will be delighted

to see something happening on that campus, because I've gone down to visit him many times.

And it's just an, it's a wasteland.

Well, there's a beautiful orb.

You know what the irony is.

I just thought of this Greg now that you said that the orb, the fax kind of has always called

it a data center.

Yeah.

And when you look at the original plans for it, there were some low-lying buildings where

there were going to be data centers, but they never put in a data center.

So now I guess Microsoft's going to fill in that part, huh?

Yeah.

I mean, here's the question I have for, for, for either of you, for anyone who, Foxconn

comes in, they make this big hollow blue about what they're going to do for Wisconsin for

that area, they get Donald Trump, they get Scott Walker putting in their golden shovels.

And now here we are, how many years later, what does Foxconn have there that works for

them?

Like, is there, is what they're doing beneficial for their company in that area?

Did they not build because they didn't need to want to or was this the plan?

Everything they're doing right now all along.

Get somebody else to step in and buy it out.

We only wanted to get this far and what you see is what we did.

And then we'll, that'll, that's, that's another day's headache.

It just seems like Foxconn came in and did all this stuff.

And now it's just like, all right, they have some, they have some buildings, they have

the orb, they have an office downtown.

Is this seen as like, I don't know if a failure is the right word or it's just like, nope,

this is what they wanted to do.

And now we're moving on and Microsoft will take the baton from here.

Well, remember in the big picture, you know, this is, it's Foxconn's a giant company.

And this is a small little piece of it, you know, it's been documented mostly by the

verge, the online publication.

They spent a lot of time trying to figure out what to do here, trying different business

ideas.

I think now they're making servers, but, you know, it's unclear whether they had any plans

at all.

I do want to say, I think that, you know, in the column, I was trying to say there are

lessons to be learned here and the lessons to be learned are politicians aren't economic

development people.

And anytime something like this happens where it's being driven politically, we should

watch out.

I mean, shame on us for thinking that Donald Trump and Scott Walker, who maybe were good

at being politicians, in fact, you could argue they are, that they would come up with

an economic development plan that would be reasonable.

So that's the big cautionary tale here.

We need to stop being so trusting, unfortunately.

And I think when people get into elected office, we may give them attributes that they do

not actually have, you know, entrepreneurs are the answer, entrepreneurs and technologists.

These things need to be driven by those kind of people.

Kathleen Gallagher is our guest.

We have just a couple of minutes left, Kathleen, let's talk a little bit about the five

lakes' institutes and what you are doing and what the goal is of your new institute.

We work a lot with universities around the Midwest, do programs for them.

And I guess one of the things we've realized is Foxcans are a great example that we've

let go of this stuff in the Midwest.

We've let go of growth and we rely on these old companies that don't change fast enough.

And so what five lakes is trying to do is bring back that entrepreneurial spirit to our

region and that pushing it kind of idea, where you're trying to disrupt technologically

what's there and growl and that's how you thrive, you growl.

Where can people find your organization, where can they find out more?

Our website is the number five, five lakes institute.org, thanks for letting me say that.

Absolutely.

We will get that up in our show notes after the show is over.

Appreciate your writing, Kathleen, you're a wonderful reporter and good luck with the

five lakes institute.

Thank you so much for joining us today.

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Paul, we do about tipping about tipping.

So if you go to Asgones, Wisconsin on to Oh, actually, no, pull is closed.

Pull is closed.

Those of polls officially close.

We'll be talking about that more in a little bit.

Yes, starting at 1133 tipping fatigue.

And that is just a way of saying also folks go and check out social media.

Asgones, Wisconsin, we post in the morning, we post about our lineup.

We're going to be talking about every, all the social media is our Asgones, Wisconsin.

And we put up, we tried to do a weekly poll, gauge your ideas and thoughts.

And we got some, we got some feedback on our, what you talked about with what you call it,

tipping fatigue.

Tipping fatigue.

Is that an official title or does that something you just made up?

No, I think it's, I think it's an unofficial title.

Okay. All right, tipping fatigue.

So we're going to talk about that coming up at 1133 right now, though, the word of the year.

Or I should say words of the year because it depends upon which source you use.

Now, I just have a question, are the words of the year going to make you upset?

Because if that's the case, it's welcome to do another edition of things that make Jane upset for no reason.

Things that make Jane cranky, it's a long list.

Miriam Webster word of the year for 2020, 23 is authentic.

Oh, okay.

That's a good one.

It is.

Yeah, why not?

Authentic.

What's your problem with it?

I just, it's not unique.

No, it's authentic, though, it's Miriam Webster, what did you, what, what did you want?

I, I, I don't spend a lot of time thinking about the word of the year.

But then you don't get to have like a deep opinion about it, thought it would have been something

just a little more unusual.

Now, it's something that's been not authentic.

That has been in our, in our jargon for a long, long time.

Miriam Webster said it saw a substantial increase in online searches this year for authentic driven

by, ah, here's why driven by stories and conversations about artificial intelligence.

Celebrity culture, identity and social media.

One reason people search for the word authentic, it includes a number of meetings,

including not false or imitation and true to one's own personality spirit or character.

See, that's where I thought we would brought you to the full, the full, the, the half full

side of the spectrum of this glass is that people being authentic and true to themselves,

something I know you appreciate.

I do.

You always want to be.

So to me, the word authentic being a word, like a, a, a great, very popular word, make, make

you excited.

I, okay, I'm fine with it.

All right, folks, you heard it here first.

I have to go to Scott's and James fine with something.

Okay.

Now this one, I am not so fine.

I know what it is.

Oxford University Press.

Give it to us has come out with their word of the year.

Oh, yeah.

And it is Riz.

Yeah.

R-I-Z-Z.

Do you know anything about that word?

Nothing.

Calvin, our resident young person, Calvin, what does Riz mean?

Let me, let me ask you something, Calvin, before you answer that question, he'll, he'll

answer the, your question by answering my question.

Calvin, does Jane have Riz?

Yeah, sure.

There you go.

What do I have a disease?

What is, what is, what is, okay, what is Riz is, like, charisma, I guess, like your

ability to talk game in quotations, like pick up people for dates, like that kind of

thing.

So it's very specific to dating culture.

It started that way, but now it's kind of just become slang for just cool and smooth

talking.

That's Oxford makes it the word of the year, because you got Riz, Jane.

So it's just a shortened version of charisma.

Yeah.

And I also believe that Calvin paid you a compliment.

Thank you, Calvin.

There we go.

I appreciate that.

Yeah, sure.

Yes, I do.

Okay, yes.

If he meant it authentically, of course he meant it authentically.

It's what you did there.

Is Riz something, Calvin, that you and your friends use frequently?

No, it's not, and I don't think anyone really does.

I think it's more of like a meme, like internet culture word, where like, it's like

a joke, like, oh, yeah, you got Riz type of thing.

And it's not even something people often say out loud.

It's just typed more often than it said.

Riz topped swifty.

It also beat out situation ship.

That's not a situation ship, an informal romantic or sexual relationship.

No, it makes more sense.

And Riz also beat out prompt, not not being on time, but the instructions given

to an artificial intelligence program, as they're giving it a prompt.

Very interesting things, very interesting.

I can, now I'm just, now I'm just hearing Riz's like what you were saying.

It's like, I'm sorry, Miss Matt in there.

You have terminal Riz and there's no going back.

There's no cure for it.

There's no cure for Riz.

So go out in the world and just Riz it up.

You can't do anything about it.

Do be authentic.

It's just be authentically Riz.

And honestly, you know what?

I love it because they aren't, well, I use the word authentic because it's, it's a word.

But like Riz, I don't use it, but I love it.

You know, who cares Oxford University press says Riz speaks to how younger

generations create spaces online or in person, where they own and define the

language they use from activism to dating and wider cultures.

Gen Z has more impact on society, differences in perspectives and lifestyle,

which play out in language as well.

Two follow ups of that statement from Oxford one.

Don't take too comfy Gen Z on this one.

They were telling my generation the same thing.

They told millennials the same thing.

They say to every generation who's young and hip and second, a word like Riz,

just what Calvin said, it's a word that started in the lexicon of young people.

And now corporations, social media platforms and influencers have co-opted it.

And they have essentially killed the word.

I was going to say Calvin right once, once corporate takes it over, it's no longer cool.

And now you got to find it now that it's the word of the year.

You're going to have to find a different one to sell out.

I don't even know if it was ever cool to be honest.

It was always kind of like a tongue in cheek thing almost.

At least as how I have always sought presented.

I think we need to have Calvin do more young person interpretations for us.

Or like, well, he's our translator.

Yeah, I mean, we've, he's, he's, he's by far my favorite resident young person I've ever had.

I mean, for a while, Christian was the resident young person.

She was and now Calvin's come along and just filled those crocs up.

He doesn't wear crocs.

I do.

That's a whole nother story coming up, tipping fatigue.

Do you have tipping fatigue?

Do you think it's too much?

Do you feel pressured?

Do you feel guilt?

If you don't, if you're going through a drive-through, it seems like everywhere you go nowadays.

You are expected to tip 844-967-2789-844-96 party.

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she is joining us and then she's going to be back soon soon.

So I mean, just a couple of weeks, it's gone really, really quickly.

Can I just say something real quick?

Sure.

You've done a fantastic job so far.

Thank you, Greg Bach.

You're welcome.

Couldn't have done it without you.

Certainly couldn't do it without Calvin.

Couldn't do it without all the folks listening at 844-967-2789.

So we did a poll.

Yes we did.

This morning, there was an article that caught my eye from the Associated Press talking about tipping

and whether or not people have had it if they are fed up.

With tipping period?

Well, I think because now it's everywhere you go.

Some people have been posting grants on social media about being asked to tip at a drive-through

and that has happened to me.

There's a particular bagel place that I will not mention that it's just a drive-through

and I have to tip in the screen.

You know, she's like, okay, here's your payments and then it comes up automatically on how much do you want to tip?

15, 20, 25, 30% now in some cases.

Who's doing, I don't believe that for a second.

But that's an option that's come up.

Well, okay.

And I think some of those things are starting to frustrate people.

Understood.

Should you have to tip at a drive-through?

No.

Right?

But the thing is at the end of the day is you don't have to tip anything.

If you don't want to, say no.

What you're talking about and what these people are talking about is the judgment

you maybe feel from them for not tipping.

Absolutely.

That shouldn't concern you if you don't want to tip them.

So who cares?

I mean, if you don't want to tip, don't tip.

But at the end of the day, remember, if you have any sort of compassion for people who work these jobs,

some of them now are not living off the tips, but it helps support them.

I mean, some people, I don't know.

There's a certain place.

I'm not going to mention it because I don't want to get yelled at.

I generally don't tip at this place because I know they make good wages.

And I also know the tips don't generally go to the employees.

That's a really important point.

I worked at two places.

You can use a system where you can tip.

And I know that when we'd hand over the machine, you could fill it out.

You could either do 10%, 15%, 20% or custom.

Or you could just say no.

Actually, no tip was, no tip was an option.

I'm sorry.

It wasn't option.

No tip, 15, 20, 25 and custom or whatever, but no tip was an option.

But at the end of the day, you don't have to tip.

That's true.

And if you don't want to tip, that's fine.

You just have to get used to an 18 to 40 year old looking at you like, but also at the

end of the day, you drive away.

They have forgotten you.

They've forgotten about you.

You're not a part of their life.

You're making yourself way more important in their narrative than you are, because they

don't get tipped all the time.

So if you want to throw them a buck or two, you say that you want to throw them a buck

or two, go for it.

You don't.

That's fine.

But it's not on, it's, your conscious isn't their problem.

I guess it never crossed my mind that there are people who never tip.

Yeah.

Never tip.

And I'm talking like, if I, but see, if I made a habit of that, it like the example

that I use this bagel place, yeah.

If I went there every week, yeah, after not tipping them for a month, I would be afraid

that they're spitting in my latte.

Well, that's, that is, that is, that's not their problem.

My problem or anyone's problem.

That's your problem.

You got to deal with that yourself.

Most, they, they, they, they stand to lose a lot more by doing that than by taking out

some movie-esque punishment on you.

So go to the bagel place and you know what, every once in a while throw a fiver in there.

You know, you don't have to do it every day, you have to do it every week.

Maybe once a month, you just throw five in there and that five makes a difference.

So there you go.

Eight, four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight, nine, eight, four, four, nine, six,

party.

Is tipping becoming overdone?

Do you feel badly if you don't tip?

Are you a service worker?

Do you live on your tips?

Eight, four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight, nine.

Jack from Miramaq is on the line.

Good morning, Jack.

Thank you so much for joining us.

I want to say about tipping.

Good morning.

Well, the problem is, of course, that it is still legal in Wisconsin to pay your server

or your bartender, some of those professions, it's something like 235 an hour.

And those are people who are living on tips, but that shouldn't, that shouldn't happen.

I mean, it really shouldn't, people should be given a living wage.

And yes, I realize that they aren't.

And when there are restaurants and clubs that I frequent, and I always make sure that

I do tip the bartender, the server, and the musicians if they have music.

Oh, good for you.

Yeah.

No, you make a good point.

You make a good point, Jack, though.

There are those, again, waiters, waitresses, bartenders who are making just pennies.

But some of these other chains, this bagel place that I mentioned, is a big nationwide

chain.

That doesn't mean they pay their people well.

I know, but they should.

That's not your, that's not your doing though.

So like, like I said, if you don't want to, then don't don't, eight four four.

Thank you, Jack.

Eight four four nine six seven two seven eight nine eight four four nine six party Scott

from St. Louis.

Good morning, Scott.

Thank you for joining the show.

Good morning.

As a former delivery driver, I will always tip delivery drivers and any waiters, waitresses.

And one thing that many people don't think about, but I've heard about doing is think mechanics

because I heard a legitimate, like, there's a tick-tocker, auto-tech, Mike, and Michigan,

who talks about like, you don't have to tip your mechanic, but if you are willing to

tip them, they will take much better care of you.

So I've started doing it from then, but as far as, like, going through a drive through

doing a self-surf key-off, what's the, who am I tipping the key-off?

It's interesting that you say that, Scott, there was a place that I went to in Brookfield

about a month ago, breakfast place.

So you go up in order, you have to wait for your food, you have to get your own drink,

you take it back to your own place.

Sounds like you went to a McDonald's.

Oh, but it wasn't.

And but the expectation is, well, how, you know, you do all the work that you will,

you will tip and then, well, shouldn't you share that tip with me because I'm delivering

my food to myself.

There are situations where I don't tip because I feel like you're doing the work of getting

paid for, and I'm fine with it.

And the auto mechanic thing, Jack Scott Scott, sorry, oh, sorry, Jack was for Scott, I just

feel that's very, like, that is a very highly skilled job.

And I feel like the money that I am showing out to any mechanic on any place on God's

green earth, if I have to pay you more for you to take better care of me, that I'm sorry,

that's just one, no, you, Scott, are those, do you know, do you know what the salary

range is for, for a car mechanic?

But like, as far, I don't know the range, but the way he was describing it was, and

I had used to work a dealership, I was doing photography for the dealership, and they

would say like, yeah, like, the mechanic is taking care of the car, but then afterwards,

like they'll wash the car free of charge, they'll do full detail free of charge, like they'll

throw in extra things that you are not paying for because you're doing those extra things,

like, and so it's like one time, like, one guy got $50 tip, and from then on, every time

he went in, they were washing the car, like, full detail, no charge.

Is he charging, is he tipping them $50 every time, because I guess what, that's then

not free.

Just the first time, just the first time, wow, I mean, that's the thing is if they're going

above and beyond, and you want to do it, that's the, that's the crux of my whole discussion

point here.

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying you're bad or good, I'm not saying, do or don't, I'm

saying you have to choose and live with the, with the consequences of your inner conscience.

If you don't want to do it, then don't do it, but you can't say, oh, tip fatigue because

no one's forcing us.

There's no law.

That's true.

That you have to tip.

I should mention the poll we did, though.

Thank you so much for this call, calls got really appreciated.

Have a great day.

844-967-2789, if you want to check in on tipping and tipping fatigue, so we did have

a show poll up.

I said in a post pandemic world, which got a lot of upset people on me, is tipping out

of control.

And 67% said, yes, with an exclamation point of 18% said, absolutely not exclamation

point.

And I did have a third option.

I haven't really noticed, and that got 15%.

Interesting.

Now, I think that, I think if you talked to a lot of people who'd said, yes to this, I

think they'd be thinking the same thing you did where it's just, you're right.

The option to tip is just all of a sudden there everywhere, because we have all these

handheld devices that give you a grub hubs, you go to toast machines.

All these things have the tipping option.

Doesn't mean you have to.

You should, if you're at a bar, you're like, the jack was saying, perfect.

Sir, there are certain service industries, right, where you really live on your tips.

There is one situation though that I do not like, and it is a, it's not a tipping, but

there is a restaurant that I want to.

I love this restaurant, and I don't want to go there anymore because now it's prohibitively

expensive.

I don't know if they still do it, which was post pandemic, or when they opened up, sorry

everyone, when they open back up, they put a 20% surcharge on everything you bought.

So you order your food, your drinks, that's, you get the cost there.

Then it was a 20% automatic fee added on it, and they post it as like, this is to help

our employees get health care and being things like that, I'm like, that's not, like just

raise your prices.

So I'm paying literally, and then on top of that, I'm, I'm, I'm tipping, so I'm tipping

like 20, 25%.

So almost 50% of the money I'm paying is going to no service whatsoever.

It's, I'm eating the food and I'm loving the food, but because you're the business

and you don't want to pony up and pay more or do more, I'm, I have to, I have to, I

have to acceptable eight, four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight, nine, you can

call and or text, texture on the text line, a friend owes a deli.

He has two employees that are paid full wages.

The cash tips are split between the employees, not him electronic tips.

So if you put it on a credit card or a debit, those tips are kept by the business to help

cover those processing fees, whatever.

I mean, as long as, as long as the boss isn't doing something shady, we're like, I keep

all the tips because of this reason.

You know, I mean, I don't like that.

They aren't, they earn the tips.

But if the employees aren't complaining and they end up, there's an understanding and

the person's like, this is what I need to do.

All right.

Well, I guess I'm just going to have to switch around my bagel places so I don't go to

the same one.

That girl is going to look at me with great judgment in her eyes.

She ain't going to spit your, she ain't going to spit in your bag, all.

I'm just, she's going to spit in my latte.

You've probably drank and or eaten more spit in your food in your life than you'll never

notice because you never noticed just like you, just like you swallow spiders when you

sleep.

Good night.

Pleasant dreams.

All right.

Thank you so much for that.

Greg Bach.

You're welcome.

When we come back, the Kennedy Center honors were last night.

Yeah.

There were some pretty great inductees.

We are going to talk about last night's inductees, some of the previous inductees.

It's usually musicians, comedians, authors, people like that.

So some pretty great people inducted into the Kennedy Center, the Kennedy Center honors

were last nights.

And then coming up shortly, we have the news at noon, followed by the one and the only

Todd Alba with the Todd Alba show from noon until two o'clock across the civic media

radio network.

And he is followed up by Matt Flynn from two to four followed by devil's advocates from

four to six o'clock.

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Or maybe just a little slow, if they leave behind it, with a water glass too long empty,

where they wait to sang with me, to a sequence for me, I must admit I'd rather get

a service for the song, but I'm the skin and I'm big work, where they don't go back

and when I'm gone.

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I talk about that app more than I cared about my bosses will be happy, but I do because

I'm just like, it's so it's like, you can call you can text you can do whatever it's

wonderful.

It's pretty slick.

It really is.

If we could, we'd pay your taxes, not we wouldn't pay your taxes, but there'd be a service

on there to help you pay your taxes.

Where we would help you file.

Exactly.

Sure, sure.

Wanted to talk just briefly about the Kennedy Center honors that happened last night in

Washington, DC, been around forever.

And it's an opportunity for some big names and entertainments to be honored.

So last night's among the honorees, comedian, Billy Crystal, a soprano, Renee Fleming,

who looks incredible, by the way, she looks amazing.

BG's singer, songwriter, Barry Gibb, hip-hop pioneer and actress, Queen Latifa.

Heck yeah.

And singer, Dion Warwick and psychic phone enthusiast of that's right.

The psychic network.

I forgot about that.

The reason we played that bumper music was specifically at Greg box requests.

So who was that?

That was the band heart.

If you remember the band heart from 70s and 80s and 90s and in Nancy Wilson, they were

performing stairway to heaven with their band with John bottom the late.

I'm sorry.

The son of John bottom Jason bottom on drums while Led Zeppelin was being honored at the

Kennedy Center in 2012.

Oh wow.

I'm getting goosebumps talking about it.

I get emotional when I hear it because it is one of the most beautiful covers I've ever

heard my life.

It's about seven minutes long.

And if you're just having a down day and you want some inspiration, seriously watch that.

The voices, the energy, Robert plant starts crying during it.

It is spectacular and it also just shows that the Wilson sisters after 50 years still rock

harder than any 10 dude bands out there.

Yeah.

Seriously.

So yeah, I love that rendition and that, but that's an example of what happens.

You'll they're honored by their peers, their colleagues, their fans and for musicians

to get music played for them.

Yeah.

It was a pretty special night.

Robert did Nero up here at Lee honored Billy Crystal because they were in the movie

analyze this and analyze that and analyze that at one point.

He sang a version of it had to be you, but he lost the words halfway through and then

started improvising, which apparently got lots of laughs.

Read on the rainbow introduced Queen Latifa.

Queen Latifa is just unstoppable.

She does everything.

So is Rita Marano.

I know.

No, don't get wrong.

Marano is amazing, but like you think about Queen Latifa.

She's been around for 30 years and movies, TV, music, talk show, magazines, inspiration.

She just does everything and she does it so well.

She's just amazing.

Another another great female rapper, Missy Elliott said that as a teenager, living in what

she had always been told was a man were a man's world.

There was Latifa calling herself queen and unapologetically insisting on ladies first.

Do you know what?

You know how you get to describe Queen Latifa?

I do not authentic fair enough fair enough Kennedy Center honors last night.

I was looking back at some of the past winners, earth, wind and fire, absolutely.

Wow.

I love it.

They were only inducted in 2019.

I mean, honestly, I could see I honest, this is one of those bands.

I could see them looking over them completely.

Just because earth, wind and fire when you think when, yeah, but their music still hold

up.

Absolutely.

But that doesn't mean we get to choose them.

So like when that's what makes me happy to see a group like earth, wind and fire get

recognized by the Kennedy Center.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Reba McIntyre love her Hamilton co-creators Lynn Manuel Miranda, which again, if you ever

have an opportunity to see Hamilton or even just to listen to the soundtrack, it's, it

will blow your mind.

And I think that has to be one of the younger.

Absolutely.

Because usually you get into you get that induction around and much later.

Yeah.

But Evans Mavis Staples who's been around and Al Pacino who been around since dirt

was invented.

They were only inducted in 2016.

You know who else was my boy Melvin Kaminsky, does that mean anything to you?

But known by a stage name Mel Brooks, oh, I love me some Mel Brooks.

Yeah.

Let me some Mel Brooks as well.

Kennedy Center honors.

Last night's Billy Crystal Queen Latifa, many, many, many well deserving, authentic.

There it is.

Artists.

I just say it's about Billy Crystal, one of the finest comedians ever.

So very funny.

If you have a chance, it's a comedy from the 80s.

It didn't do a lot of money.

It's not really talked about a whole lot.

Him and Gregory Hines running scared.

It's a buddy cop comedy, a young Jimmy Smiths is in it.

It is so hilarious.

Is it?

Oh, I watched that movie at least twice a year.

It's so fun.

And Michael McDonald is the background soundtrack, the entire time.

Michael McDonald from the Dubie Brothers.

Yep.

Yeah.

What's it called running scared?

With Billy Crystal and Gregory Hines and Gregory Hines.

Yeah.

All right.

I won't do a search for that.

Oh, yeah.

Please don't.

Interesting.

So all right.

Stay close.

We have the news coming up very, very shortly.

That will be followed by the Todd all about show.

When we come back with you tomorrow at 10 30, as he is every Tuesday, Dan Schaefer will

be here to help us recombobulate with the recombobulation area.

I hope you have a wonderful day.

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Thank you, Greg.

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