Act 10 Is Heading To Court And Green Bay’s Swift Victory (Hour 1)

From the Civic Media Radio Network, moving Wisconsin forward one joke at a time, this is

as goes Wisconsin with Kristen Brott, now, filling in for the new mom, here's Jane

Mattenair. Good morning and welcome to as goes, Wisconsin, Greg Bach with me in studio

Kelvin is on the board joining us as he does every Monday in the first hour our friend and colleague

Todd Alba of the wonderful Todd Alba show which you can catch right after our program ends from noon

to two across the Civic Media Radio Network. How are you doing this morning, Todd?

I tell you, I tell you, I am doing absolutely fantastic. Jane, Greg, Kelvin, once again America has proven

that Simone Baez is better than Taylor Swift, the Packers get the win because Simone was out there in the

elements, she understands she was out there with the people, she had her coat on, she was in the

snowflakes, Taylor is up there trying to shake it off up there, the cozy booth and the Packers get a

miraculous win. Christmas is upon us, the holidays are upon us, I'm an fantastic group.

Wow, just from that Packers win, I did not stay up till the end of the game when I went to bed about quarter

after nine. What was it? 21 14 and I was a little hesitant to go to sleep thinking that they were

going to they were going to wrap this up, but they did. And like you said, Simone Baez in the

elements as opposed to Taylor Swift, although all the talk this morning is about Taylor Swift's red coat.

Yeah, I don't. It wasn't ice red coat. Let me make clear. I'm not necessarily a Swiftie, but I love Taylor Swift,

she's registering people to vote. I think she's a good person. I'm all pro Taylor Swift, but in this

case, I just love the fact that Simone Baez was out in the elements and with the people and her Packers,

her husband, our Packers won. Well, and this this Rex T Swift's record too, because the chief said

won every game that she had been at until last night. Yes, the curse of the good luck charm of the

Swifties. Yeah, they may have worn off a little bit last night. I'm not saying anything because I do not

need the wrath of the Swiftie nation coming down and using its funny, it's severe and you never know

when they're coming. It's true. They are. They'll get you every time. We play a lot of Swift in our

show. I'm all for Taylor Swift. Just in this case, you know, friendly rivals. There's nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, absolutely. Before we get going on the latest lawsuit to try and overturn Act 10, I did want to share some

breaking news. Doug Burgham is out of the presidential race. What? I know. Doug Burgham in other news,

a potted plant is also dropped out of the race. Doug Burgham, the governor of North Dakota. Yes, I know.

What's North Dakota? There was a guy who just, I mean, it was why are you doing this? I mean, you're not

going to be the vice presidential choice. It's just it was a very odd presidential campaign in my opinion.

He really didn't bring anything to the table. He hasn't been what the last two or three debates because he

did qualify. You can get on the stage. Yeah. So, yeah, well, and I expected. I question how much

recognition, how recognizable he is even in North Dakota, much less the rest of the country,

because I don't think anybody had heard of Doug Burgham before. So if you pull out of mapping people

like that's North Dakota, you can be like, that's Montana. Well, what about that one? That's South Dakota,

brought that one. That's for mods. All right, moving on. This happened last week, and we did not get an

opportunity to talk about it. So I wanted to back up a little bit. There was a lawsuit filed last

Thursday in Dane County Circuit Court arguing the 2011 act 10 law violates equal protection guarantees in

the state constitution by dividing public workers into two classes, general workers and public safety

workers, public safety employees are exempt from collective bargaining limits that the general public

employees have to follow. And I wanted to throw this out there too. If were you affected by act 10, I'm

curious, eight, four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight, nine, eight, four, four, nine, six, seven,

two, seven, eight, nine, did act 10 affect you? Were you a teacher? Were you another one of these general

employees that did not get to have these collective bargaining anymore?

I was not a teacher or any of that, but I worked in local government back when that was happening.

And because there were major cuts coming down the way because of act 10 and because of of budgeting and

shared revenue, because of act 10, I got my salary cut by 5.2%. And I found that out because I was told

you're going to get a raise of 2.6% and they told us I'm getting that raise. So the cut wasn't so bad.

Now, I wasn't a union employee when I was working for the city. I was a non-rev employee or non-rev,

but it actually had its effect on more people than other than some, than some know.

Well, I think everybody thinks it was only teachers. Yeah. And certainly teachers, I think probably took the biggest

biggest brunt of act 10. They were the most directly affected. Absolutely. And again, I'm just curious,

what was your experience? Did it affect you 844-967-2789 act 10 ended the ability of public sector unions to negotiate

over any issues except for raises. And the raises were capped at the rate of inflation.

Unions also require to hold annual elections to maintain their ability to negotiate for raises.

And in those elections, they have to win a majority of all eligible members, not just those who cast votes.

What I remember specifically from act 10 among the demonization of our teachers,

which I still don't think we've ever recovered from, I think the way that our teachers were treated during all of that

and made to look like criminals has led to a lot of teachers fleeing the state.

Or retiring. Or retiring. Or young. I mean, I think the average now is like people who come out of school,

they last at most five years in teaching because they're just no, do you want to stay in a job where

at the same time as you're told, teach this child as parents scream at you, don't tell my child what to do or don't teach my child.

I mean, it's not what it is. I mean, since act 10, it is open the floodgates for people just to be openly hostile at teachers

and say these horrible things about them, you know, they're takers, they're moochers.

It's like a good teacher makes, I think, maybe 50 grand a year.

And that's someone who's been working for a long time.

Yes.

I just don't know, Todd, where this is going to go.

I mean, if this, if this has any shot, well, I mean, I hope it does quite frankly.

There's actually in the capital working in the capital for Republican State Senator, my former emphasis, former party.

And I was witness, firsthand witness to, to basically all this stuff on act 10. Of course, my former boss, Dale Schultz,

was the only Republican member of the State Senate to vote against act 10.

And I could tell you stories at Nazim about it. To pertaining to this particular issue, this is another great reason why elections matter.

And just as Janet Proto say what's getting elected and put it into the liberal hands, four to three.

Because I think if you look in this article in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Jane that you forwarded,

and you're basing this office, it's a great reporting, right? Because a couple of things.

A, there's a line in here that says public workers earning 50 grand to your point, Greg.

A year saw their take home pay shrink by about 8.5%.

Because they had to pay more for their benefits, according to the nonpartisan legislative fiscal bureau.

Republicans have touted the laws savings, and it gave elected officials and public more control of government.

Repealing act 10, quote, would bankrupt schools and local governments right after we gave them a historic funding increase, according to our friend.

What is it? What is he, Greg Bach?

Pop the popcorn.

The popcorn.

Robert Voss.

Now let me tell you something on this.

As a former state legislative employee, when you talk about savings, you know that under act 10,

public employees had to pay more for their benefits.

That's 100% right.

Guess who didn't have to pay more for their benefits?

Legislators and their legislative staff.

When I left public service in the legislature in 2015,

guess how much I was paying for my monthly premium for my health insurance and benefits?

75 bucks.

78.

Seriously.

78 dollars a month and I had Cadillac health insurance.

Nearly no deductible for any office call, because see any specialist I wanted.

5 to 10 dollars at most for a deductible for my prescription drugs.

Cadillac health insurance, 78 dollars a month in 2015, post act 10.

The legislature carved out a niche for themselves and their staff while sticking it to other public employees like,

shall we mention, people like our law enforcement.

And this was, this was another thing that just absolutely was astounding.

They left people like the state patrol and firefighters and cops alone.

I guess who else they screwed over?

The Capitol police.

The very people that protected Republicans and Scout Walker during the protests.

By the way, they really didn't have to because 100,000 people were very peaceful as it turns out in those protests.

But all this protection by the Capitol police and who the Republicans screw over with act 10?

The Capitol police.

Wow.

How's that for backing the badge?

Wow.

That's soon.

If you're just joining us, we're talking about a lawsuit that was filed last week in Dane County Circuit Court attempting to overturn act 10 that was enacted by the Walker administration.

And what I also remember specifically about that Todd is that Scout Walker never mentioned that when he was on the campaign.

Never.

Never came up.

There was no hint of it.

It wasn't even on anybody's radar except I assume within certain halls in the state Capitol.

I'll tell you he came into the Senate Republican caucus, the closed caucus.

He and his chief of staff and a couple others to tell us or to tell my bosses, you know, the Republican senators what he was going to do.

And I believe, and I'll clean it up for radio.

My boss's first words upon hearing this in the closed Senate caucus after Walker was elected was Jesus Blanky and Blank.

I mean, it was.

It was.

I mean, it was.

It was.

He was.

I mean, even the high and my boss was the third ranking Republican in the Senate caucus at the time.

And he had no clue until Walker was sworn into office what the real intentions were.

Even though cops, and I don't know my firefighters, it's not.

It's no surprise that cops, even though in a union, they tend to vote Republican.

That's, you know, there was, I remember when they endorsed him, even a ripple of.

That's odd.

We can't put our finger on it, but it just seems weird that they're coming out all of a sudden and just endorsing him.

And it just like now, I know why we'll keep this conversation going eight four four nine six seven two seven eight nine eight four four nine six party.

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Talking about a lawsuit that was filed last week in Dame County Circuit Court in an effort to overturn the act 10 that was enacted under the Scott Walker administration, wondering if that affected you.

If you're a teacher, maybe you were someone else considered one of these general employees who did not get to who lost their rights to collectively bargain in essence eight four four nine six seven two seven eight nine.

What'd be a good thing for act 10 to be overturned.

Sharky from from from routine have lived live Monday is on the line.

Good morning, Sharky.

Thank you for joining us.

And thank you for taking my call.

You know, I wasn't one person for over 20 years.

And I was a union leader at the same time.

I told bad for the teachers because in my world, in my world, there's two major heroes.

One is a teacher.

One is an astronaut.

You take an astronaut and put the rocker on his butt hot and he flies for the moon about that's pretty damn cool.

Okay.

And then.

And then you got you got these beautiful teachers who are the other heroes in my world that they're actually standing in front of children without a baseball bat or hand with all a toleration that less than people.

But we, you know, we can't remember.

We just can't ask again.

I should say the issues of, you know, act 10 and how it turned everybody against each other and during my time I was during act 10.

And then I was part of the liaison for security and a lot of ugliness went against the teachers and all the debates and all the targeting of people who signed the, if you recall, the recalls.

And they were used against these people.

People lost their jobs because of their positions.

They're holding throughout and it was ugly time, even though I was, you know, in the union and I protected my people in a good way.

And I'm being responsible.

I felt terrible because I mean, the teachers, like I said, as you can see, they're truly my hero.

And I felt bad like that.

And I'm glad it's, it's well overdue to get these teachers back on board.

Sharky, this is Todd really appreciate you calling in.

I know we've talked to you on our program before too.

Here's a question I have for you as a former law enforcement official because we talked before the break about the Capitol police not being included in this, but also left out where the conservation warns who were unprotected Jim Palmer executive director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association,

according to the story of the Milwaukee General Sentinel said that what it came down to was that the wardens didn't neatly fit into the category of quote public safety officials unquote.

Sharky as a former police or a former law enforcement official talked to our audience a little bit about what conservation wardens really do when it comes to public safety.

Well, a confirmation wardens will go through it all entire state.

They keep, they keep our gaming in position, the deer hunting, the safety of guns, the safety of water, the safety of the air.

I mean, they're out there making sure everyone's where they're supposed to be and done in a fair fashion.

I mean, isn't good.

I was going to isn't true, particularly I come from rural area in Southwest Wisconsin.

There are places municipalities that either don't have their own dedicated law enforcement official religious unincorporated areas, but there is a conservation warden.

And oftentimes, whether it's a traffic accident, when there is a domestic violence, a call that that sort of thing, the conservation warden actually fills in for local law enforcement officials.

It goes way beyond fishing and hunting. Is that correct, Sharky?

Absolutely, absolutely.

You know, and I could tell you that all all the way back to 1984 when the pocket comatatus was actually in Tiger Tendells.

I was part of a, it was, it was a secret mission at the mayor of 1984, but yeah, they were part of that whole deal when they went into Tiger Tendells to relieve them from their village.

And they did it peacefully. Thank God, went out of shop the entire, but that was a secret mission after Waco.

We learned from Waco and what that, what that turned out to be. And we did it without a shop the entire.

So, Sharky, in your estimation, I would assume that these conservation wardens should be considered law enforcement like police, correct?

Absolutely, and I have to tell you I'm a little bit embarrassed, but you know, I'm 64 now.

So I forgot the fact that they were no longer included in that. And I'm embarrassed to say that, but they should have been included.

And as well as the teachers, I mean, this is just a walker stinky pants. I guess I just was disgusting.

There's, there's a t-shirt. There's somewhere, Sharky. Thank you so much for the call. Really appreciate it.

844-967-2789-844-967-2789 should act 10 be repealed.

Do you think that's a good thing? Do you think that's a bad thing?

Again, I think people forget that one of the reasons the recall happened is because Scott Walker never mentioned this when he was on the campaign trail.

And then came out and blindsided from what Todd has said, even blindsided many members of the Wisconsin Republican Party.

Yeah, absolutely. And I think what what Sharky is getting into here is Jane, what you pose the beginning of this segment, is does this have a chance to why is it being brought before the courts?

And what Sharky is pointing out here from a first hand perspective is because it was applied unevenly.

How can you say that we're going to carve out and look, I don't think that firefighters and police officers should have been under this either.

So I'm happy that they were left out of this. But so should conservation wardens be protected?

Capital police teachers, it was a terrible piece of legislation. It was completely political.

It was based on Scott Walker wanting to be the president of the United States. And it did for 15 minutes.

He had his national moment of fame across America. It petered out pretty darn quickly, kind of like Doug Burgham.

Thank you.

I was just going to say that.

Hey, who are you talking about?

Who's this guy?

But the point of this lawsuit is, and the premise is, as I understand it, and I'm no Matt Flynn or Maggie Dawn,

but as I understand it, they're going before the court say, look, this is unconstitutional because it was applied unevenly.

And for that reason, I think it does stand a chance of being overturned.

The other thing that will always stay with me, I will never, ever, ever forget.

I believe it was below Riley on Fox News reporting on the protests in Madison.

And they used footage, and this was from this was happening in February.

They used footage of people protesting, and there were palm trees in the background in Madison in February.

And the Capitol building said, hotel California.

The art deco is beautiful.

We're going to keep this going.

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We were talking about the lawsuit filed last week in Dane County Circuit courts to repeal or overturn act 10,

which was instituted under the Walker administration.

844-967-2789 were you affected by act 10?

What was the impact of that?

Pat from Win Lake.

Thank you so much for your patience, Pat.

Good morning.

What did you want to say?

Thanks for taking my call, Jane.

I was impacted by act 10.

But, you know, in my life, and I've been retired a couple of years, but I've worked for 48 years,

and I've always been able to make my case my surprise.

Well, almost always been able to make my case, so I didn't need representation.

Now, there are certainly companies that do not treat their employees as well as I have been treated.

And when a third party comes in and makes the decision for others, then I'm going to stand up against that.

It's just wrong.

You know, if the parties involved want to vote themselves out of a union or both themselves into a union, then go for it.

But they have a third party come in and make a decision for them.

That's just wrong, in my opinion.

And the whole thing, too, Pat, again, I go back to Scott Walker, never campaigned on this.

There was never a peep about any of this.

And then once he was elected, it was like, oh, hello, surprise.

Here's what we're going to do.

And I think that is bad.

Totally agree with that.

That's a concealed lie is what it is.

Thank you so much, Pat.

Really appreciate it.

844-967-2789, if you'd like to join us.

It's the concealed lie along with the unfairness along with everything that makes me feel like, you know, I can't.

Tell you how a judge is going to rule or how court's going to come down.

But I feel like there is enough.

I don't want to say evidence, but just there's enough there to make someone go, this doesn't look right.

It's never looked right.

And, you know, I went to the Capitol protest back when it happened.

It was a beautiful thing.

And, you know, at the end of the day, didn't end up like getting what they wanted.

But now, many years later, we can look back and be like, hey, yeah, this, this was, this was smelly from the start.

Absolutely.

There's no question.

Todd, I want to go back to what you had mentioned about health care and your health insurance.

While you were working for a Republican state lawmaker, and they gave themselves and their staff this great deal

in this under under the umbrella of act 10.

And then let everybody else spend for themselves.

I have this terrible vision of some of these guys behind closed doors just rubbing their hands going, yeah,

let's stick it to them.

Like Tommy Thompson said, let's stick it to Milwaukee.

What was the general, I mean, were they gleeful?

There were some people, some repult and make clear on the health care thing.

That affected all legislators and all legislative staff regardless of party.

I just did.

It was just a carve out for a Republican.

No, no, no.

I understand.

All the benefit on that deal.

Right.

But yeah, it was, it was a surreal time.

I think I've told it on this show or others.

I came to work one day in the door.

Usually when the Capitol was blocked by all this massive people.

And it turned out that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were holding up, you know, a press conference there.

Which is, I mean, I never thought I'd see that working in a, in a day.

But inside, I think, you know, certainly my boss.

There were others that while they voted in favor of act 10 did so.

I would say they were ill for, for doing it and felt forced into it.

Otherwise, they would be primary.

Like my former boss would have been, had he chosen to run for reelection.

There were certainly people in that caucus that were giddy.

That's a word I've used on other things they did.

But yeah, I mean, this was a partisan attack by Scott Walker and the inner workings, the Republican party at the time.

It was for political reasons because teachers union in particular led for a long time by the great Mori Andrews, a friend of mine who is unfortunately now passed away.

They were a political force to be reckoned with.

The deal was that Moris Andrews and Tommy Thompson, well, one time arch enemies worked with each other.

And actually, you know, move forward.

And in their later lives, Tommy and Mori became close allies and close friends.

And there were a lot of, you know, I would call them, I was also a secret.

But there were phone calls being, people might remember the Democrats in the state said it left the state and went to Rockford, Illinois.

They tried to postpone this vote on act 10.

And there were a lot of people, including Tommy Thompson at the time, who were having quiet discussions with people like Fred Risser, the long time Democratic Senate president and leader of the Democrats.

And others, a Bob Jalk and Tim Cullen trying to find compromise.

But yes, there was certainly a wing other Republican party, certainly within the Senate Republican caucus, who were ecstatic about finally breaking the teachers union.

And I want to remind people, because I come from a family of educators, this is not just about affecting the salaries of teachers who Greg pointed out more often than not are vastly underpaid for what they're expected to do.

This also affects their ability to negotiate on things like their prep period being told that they really don't get one.

You just have to keep working and can't prepare for this.

Your time that you spend, there is an inordinate amount for people who don't aren't familiar with teaching.

They're called IEPs, individual something program, where each kid, if they have a learning disability, if there are, if there are a cyclara behavioral issues, teachers have to do all this paperwork and sit down with counselors.

And this is all done outside the classroom.

So all of these things that teachers are expected to do besides teach, they don't have any power.

And by the way, teachers health care skyrocketed in most districts and were forced to go to other providers because teachers no longer have the ability to bargain over their benefits.

844-967-2789, Karina on the phone from Milwaukee. Good morning, Karina. Thank you for joining us.

Hi, good morning.

Well, you see, I'm not that good at everything what is going on because most of it doesn't make sense honestly.

The only thing, what does make sense?

Well, the first of all, if you break the system for education as for teachers who's bringing education to your kids and continuously destroy the trust into the system of education.

Then the future generation is going to be easy to manipulate because they are not educated enough.

One, two, with all this corruption, you know, when you are in America, you see you as far when it falls apart because of the military rates.

But actually when you're inside you, as far, you see it, not a military rate, it's the party that's stealing money, making themselves special, putting themselves in the conditions where they have a better health care, a better ways of obtaining benefits for themselves.

So the Soviet Union itself falls apart because of the corruption and bureaucracy.

And this is what I see, the little things, especially in the Republican Party, that this is what they do.

They pulling the blanket for themselves and they leaving the rest of the country completely open and vulnerable.

And they leaving the country vulnerable in the worst places, who would ever thought to make money on your own people who are sick and need education.

Thank you, Karina. Appreciate your call. 844-967-2789 Jim from Milwaukee is on the line.

Good morning Jim. We're talking about Act 10 and this lawsuit that was filed this week. What do you want to say?

Thank you. After 40 years in education and many different positions, I agree with what was said about the financial and the ability to control wages, hours, working conditions that you talked about.

Of course, all that went to heck at the point that Walker gave everybody the surprise of his bomb.

But there's another thing that people saw them mention and that during that period of time, I saw education in Wisconsin and the number of districts that I worked really improving.

DBI with Department of Public Instruction, strong leadership, teachers, administrators and school boards were working together.

Collegiate teachers were really, there was a great staff development taking place in the best knowledge of how students learn.

The curriculum instruction was improving. It was becoming a focus in the districts and all of a sudden that felt completely apart.

Because people were not getting along for some of the attitude wise, but also they just wasn't funding for that type of thing.

And it was left on the table and all people want to talk about is dollars and cents and power.

And it's really unfortunate because I saw Wisconsin move from what I thought was a real progressive state educationally and lead in national leaders becoming one of the farthest behind.

It really did turn us into whistle sipping.

Yeah, you're not wrong about that, Jim. You really aren't. Thank you so much for the call.

We were leading the nation. We were an educational role model for the rest of the country for decades and decades and decades until this happened.

And just my personal opinion, but I think this is part of a larger attack on public education in order to ultimately kill public education and get everybody into a private school.

Yeah, I absolutely agree. I would see a couple of quick things. A, to your point, Jane, this is divided the Greg mentioned to you. This is divided our state like nothing certainly in my lifetime.

It was what's ironic about it is Republicans who tend to represent or the rural areas of the state.

This is an attack on an assault on them in places like Ithaca, Wisconsin, right outside Richland Center, our colleague Philney called the Ithaca state baseball game when they came from behind a great call at great game. Ithaca schools are the community of Ithaca.

It's an incorporated village and what these attacks on public education are doing are assaulting our rural communities across the state.

It's my boss, my four boss Dale Schultz on this past. He said we have decided meaning the Republicans minus him to create a two class education system in the state and fast forward. And that's where you are.

And finally, I'll say this in Robin Voss's speaker Voss's own district lies Burlington school district. He is a graduate of Burlington.

Burlington is facing a referendum this spring in April, the Burlington school district. If it fails, it will mean the immediate suspension of virtually all sports including football.

So all you people who love as I do to go to a Friday night lights football game, go to see your your kids play sports. Guess what?

Burlington is facing the extinction of that in Robin Voss's own district. How's that bringing this together? How's that working out?

And I wonder sometimes Todd if it's not people my age because I'm 63. Don't have kids never had kids in the public education system who can just blow this off and say, yeah, well, again, I don't have kids. I don't care.

This is a this is going to have major impact on all of our lives.

Yes, not to mention the people the economy. I mean, guess what? Teach of many times after this before many times the spouses of teachers end up using the school district insurance for health care while they're out being a plumber or electrician or whatever in the trades or or a carpenter where they don't or running a retail shop, but their health care comes from the their spouse or their significant other who's a teacher.

This is a guess what teachers spend locally because they want to support the families of their kids. They teach it is a circle of life as they say in the Lion King.

Well, as you said, they support their classrooms in so many ways that most of us do not appreciate and recognize their buying supplies for their class classrooms with their own money.

It's gotten so bad that there is now a website where you can donate to teachers. Oh, yeah, I mean, I love the idea, but that shouldn't exist in this country period.

Those teachers should be funded taking care of and admired for what they're doing and stop politicians saying teachers are the backbone teacher sure our heroes start doing things that make them feel like it.

844-967-2789 stay with us. You're listening to Asgos Wisconsin. We are on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Good morning. Welcome, welcome, welcome to Asgos Wisconsin, Jane Mattner, int for Kristen Brie. We got Calvin on the board Greg Bach with me in studio taught all but joining us as he does every Monday from 10 to 11.

And you can always chime in to 844-967-2789-844-96 party. We're going to talk about last night's Packer game in just a little bits and the T Swift and Simone Biles energy.

But right now, we're going to wrap up our conversation about a lawsuit filed last week in Dane County to overturn act 10 that was instituted under the Scott Walker administration.

Cindy, thank you for your patience. Cindy calling from Appleton. What did you want to say about act 10?

Hello, I have a couple of things. First of all, I just got up the phone with Governor Evers office and reiterating my call from last week that that J. Rothman needs to be expelled from his job.

Fantastic. I would just like to say that I am one of the people. I'm 67 years old, never had children, will not have grandchildren, but I still care about an education system because I understand that an educated public benefits me, benefits my community, benefits the state, benefits the nation, benefits the country because who's the next person that might come up with a cure for cancer or whatever.

So this is what we get from an educated public and I just don't understand how people can't figure that out. Even if you're older, you should still care about the people that are going to be taking care of you over the next 10 or 20 years.

Hopefully, right? Hopefully they're going to be taking care of you over the next 10 or 20 years. That's a really good point, Cindy.

Yep. So anyway, that's just my feeling. I am act 10 is horrible. I'm a union employed person and I just think what they did was despicable and shame on Scott Walker and all those got awful Republicans.

He has. Thank you. Appreciate it. 844 967 2789. We got a couple texts. We got a text from the 715. I worked at a large veterans home during this time, almost overnight, our union hall, which was across the street was put up for sale.

And immediately staff were treated differently and working conditions deteriorated. And he staff close to retirement did and new and newer staff left at the at the same time as many benefits that the veterans were taking away.

Sorry, here we go. At that same time, many benefits that the veterans had were taken away or decreased thousands of nurses along with teachers retired at that time.

Yeah, it's just a shame. And like I believe it was Jim from Milwaukee who said that, you know, teachers are among his heroes or was sharky. I think you said that.

Yes. And I agreed. Teachers are heroes who goes into this thinking it's going to be a cakewalk, especially nowadays.

And a texture from the 541 says here's your GOP plan. Defund child care. So one parent has to stay home to fund public schools. So those parents already staying home and start homeschooling.

Now spend taxes now spend taxes on stadiums that will be empty in 30 years because the kids who are homeschooled don't have the skills or experience to play at pro levels.

Well, if it's like Burlington, they're going to get their school sports taken away. So they won't even play there. Right.

If you if your kid has any sort of if your kid has any sort of talent, they're going to eat that to a private school or they have to transfer to another area.

I mean, the knock on effects are ridiculous. And yet here are GOP later saying more school choice money.

Yeah. And what you've been saying for a while, women just stay home and have babies.

Exactly. Just stay home, ladies. All right, moving on. Packers beat the chiefs 27 to 19 last night at Lambo field. What was your biggest takeaway from that Todd?

A couple of things. Number one, we haven't mentioned this. I mentioned it quickly because Jane told me over the weekend. I'm very excited about this. I followed protocol.

The date is brown shoe and sock day. So yes, I've got my brown shoes nice and my sexy socks on. So nice.

Nice. I don't like to move over. Nice leg action. That's thanks. I'm not now. I know I know Simone Biles. You're pretty. You're pretty bendy. I'm going to say.

I'm going to say. I'm really used to it. So I just like that in there. It is brown shoe and sock day, which I did not know was a thing.

I brought the packers. Well, here's my big takeaway. Jordan love is the real deal. I'm not going to. I'm not going to harsh critic, but I put a word that was saying, look, there is no way the packers can have three Hall of Fame quarterbacks in a row.

It just ain't going to happen. I was a little. I was a little harsh on that on that pick of Jordan love. Holy cow. You give them some receivers that can hang on to a ball. A couple of those passes last night.

I mean, you got Chris Collins worth comparing him to far of an era Rogers right there. It was, it was a fantastic game. I thought it was the most complete game of both sides of the ball. I've seen the packers play all year. I'm a believer. Not, not, not just a beaver, but a believer. I'm in. I'm in on Jordan love. I'm in on the pack. It is time. The, here come the playoffs.

Well, and you, I mean, we could actually get into the playoffs now, right? Because after that abysmal starts now. They're six and six, six and six.

Yeah, and they've got that I believe the next four teams ahead of them all have a losing record. There are the giants are up next at New York. I believe their quarterback was but injured. It was announced this morning is coming off the engine reserve. So that will give the giants a little bit of hope.

But I think the packers have a great shot. Of course, we still have to play the the terrible Chicago Bears and.

So it wouldn't be fantastic. That would be fantastic. If we seize a playoff wild card spot against Chicago Bears. Aren't the bears our last game of the season.

Yeah. So they were our first and last game. Yes. Yeah. Now just I, I heard, I thought I heard something over the weekend, though, that that's if we want the packers to get into the playoffs, we might have to root for the Vikings.

And the remote silence. Oh God, that'd be terrible. I know. That's the Viking. Well, I think the packers still play the Vikings at least one more time. They got to play the Vikings and the bearers. So I mean, you beat the Vikings, you beat the bears, you beat the, you're a giants.

You know, we should be, we should be pretty good. If you're a fan, then you suck it up and you say go purple and yellow.

For just for the good of the whole. Right. All right. All right. What is coming up on your fine program today, Todd?

Oh, my goodness gracious. We're going to catch up on some of the news of the week going to talk about the Trumpster a little bit and some of the threats to democracy.

There was a great story this morning. I believe you had it in the notes as well, Jane. I saw it in the CBS this morning, major Garrett. One of my favorite reporters for CBS did a great piece on, I believe it was Texas.

I don't get the state right by the time our show starts, but it was this group of mainly white women who are challenging voter rolls and getting predominantly minority folks, black and brown folks kicked off the voter roll moving into 2024.

This is something that's serious and it's, it's a quiet thing that's happening, but it's having a dramatic effect. So we'll talk about that. All right. Thank you so much, Todd. Although really appreciate it. Catches show starting at noon today right here on the civic media radio network.

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